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      Those who turn soon should be accepted. Not Scot free, but accepted. There’s the possibility they were roped in by propaganda, and got too deep.

      If they don’t turn now, they definitely knew what they were doing, and should face the appropriate consequences.

      It’s also worth remembering, always give your enemy a way out. It’s a lot easier to run down the die-hards than deal with a group of cornered animals.

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        It’s refreshing to see possible forgiveness as a first step before applying a firmer hand.

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          Surrender should always be rewarded, turning sides moreso. Full forgiveness isn’t always warranted, but you only hurt yourself by offering no quarter

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    The ICEatzgruppen like being on the side of the line that they’re on. They’re pretty much exclusively bullies. They enjoy acting with impunity. They view the world as zero sum, and are convinced there are terrorists and criminals hiding around literally every corner, and that they’re somehow virtuous bloodhounds saving “good Americans” from the “depraved immigrants”. The dudes who executed Alex Pretti were long timers, not fresh hires. Theres no excuse, and there’s no saving them.

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    He’s pleading with the wrong people. These are all heart-of-hearts racists. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to a one. They deserve lifetime prison sentences, not forgiveness.

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      The proud boys are a lot of things, racist is not really one of them. The founder even moved away when they became to accepting in 2017.

      Know your Enemy.

      Although the Proud Boys emerged as part of the alt-right, McInnes distanced himself from the movement in early 2017, saying the Proud Boys were alt-lite while the alt-right’s focus was on race.

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        Even the Wikipedia article you referenced contradicts your assertion that the group itself isn’t racist.

        While Proud Boys leadership has denied being a white supremacist organization, the group and some of its members have been connected to white supremacist events, ideologies, and other white-power groups throughout its existence.

        According to the International Centre for Counter-Terrorism the group believes that traditional masculinity and Western culture are under siege, using “Western chauvinism” as euphemism for the white genocide conspiracy theory.[4] Members have participated in overtly racist events and events centered around fascist, anti-left, and anti-socialist violence.[4]

        Seems like you should do more work on knowing your enemy.

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          I also go by what i heard on Jubilee surround videos, where members describe their membership.

          Kinda just sounds like dull mens club, but with violent militia groups as chapters.

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    Unlikely because most of them want in on the pedo action. At the very least they are full on pedo protectors.

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    If history is any indication ICE will sadly have to first become bigger, more influental and have a leadership developing their own ambitions before the “dropping them like a bad habit” happens… alongside awarding lots of Ernst-Röhm-Memorial-Awards.

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      Yes there will come a time when they will weed out the undesirables, just like Röhm who was one of Hitler’s closest friends and openly gay.

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    Whatever happened to “make work”? I remember when Obama created the “green energy” initiatives, along with a number of other proposals for infrastructure projects that would have a return on investment and the motherfucking republicans called it “make work”, likened it to digging ditches.

    What is ICE other than a make-work jobs program for racist losers and dumasses who can’t get a job or hold one down anywhere else?

    These assholes should be repairing the roads and bridges we see collapsing all over the country. They should be building federal funded hospitals in rural communities instead of shutting them down with Medicaid cuts. They should be building housing. Rename DHS the “Department of Housing Security”.

    Our priorities are profane.