• atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works
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    As a Native American whose citizenship is being argued against in the Supreme Court, whose people have been fighting against the invasion of white people from Europe for centuries and only got the right to vote in 1975: go fuck yourself.

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        No one is saying it’s your fault dumbass we’re saying not to blame people being targeted by the fucking Nazis in the USA for this mess. Would you blame the Jewish, Romani, and queer people that got targeted by Nazis for WW2? Think before you comment.

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        Moreover, it’s not a europe problem it’s a class problem. It wasn’t the builders, gardeners, and plumbers of Europe deciding to subjugate the world. It was the oligarchs. They were squeezing all they could out of Europe and it wasn’t enough for them. So they dressed it up as duty to the country/religion to expand, but it was a way of enriching themselves.

        Many Scottish crofters were also forced off their land during the sheep clearances when the lairds figured out that removing the population and replacing them with sheep was more profitable. They would either buy up the land and evict the crofters or charge them for fabricated crimes and send them to Australia. The place I grew up has a population of around 10% of what it should be because of this practice (that’s after steady growth in the last few decades).

        It’s also worth mentioning that a lot of the settlers from Scotland who joined the Hudson Bay company for example, did so because they couldn’t earn enough to survive at home. Both because of taxes from the lairds and low wages.

        So yes Europeans moved to America, but for most of them it was a matter of survival, not greed.

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          I keep seeing so many people saying to hell with all Americans, no matter who, and I feel like this best counters that sentiment. Those in power would love to see us bicker and fight each other over nationality while they reap in the riches. In reality, we’re all on the same side against the oligarchs. We’ve all been fucked over by the rich.

          There is no war but the class war. Stand together and unite.

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            Now don’t get me wrong. If I see American uniforms in my hometown, then I don’t give a fuck if it’s some 18 year old kid who joined for a university scholarship. I’m going to come up behind him with a piano wire. Just because it’s not their decision to be there doesn’t mean I have to put up with it. If you don’t want your kids dying in Europe, do something about your leadership.

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              Oh absolutely. Being American and an American soldier are two very distinct things. Ones a choice, and the other many of us were born into.

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        Ah yes I see European solidarity is alive and well. No chance you’ll ever have fascism again over there with statements like that. Truly a bastion of the brightest and best ideals of humanity.

        /s

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                You unknowingly told all indigenous people to go fuck themselves. An indigenous person told you that they are struggling and to go fuck yourself. You got your panties twisted and instead of saying " my bad, I agree you guys aint the problem" you doubled down.

                Your mindset is one of willful ignorance towards the plight of the indigenous people of the americas. It is a colonizers mindset. Your ignorance towards them makes you feel comfortable looping them in with all the european immigrants that came over and their offspring without a second thought.

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      This seems as ignorant as the parent comment. Just like they ignored the native population, you’re ignoring whole countries full of white peoples who did not partake in any form of colonialism.