“On systems with Secure Launch enabled, attempts to shut down, restart, or hibernate after applying the January patches may fail to complete.”

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    Instead of waiting a few more years for Linux to reach the level of ease-of-use needed to overtake Windows, MS is being sporty by moving the goal closer.

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        Or any of the other “easy” distros. To be honest… The “gaming” distros have been just as easy as mint to me. Cachy, bazzite, and to a lesser degree nobara (points knocked off for giving me grief after an update) have all been very easy and stable.

        I think people get scared because everyone says you need to use command line in Linux. That’s not really true any more than it is in Windows. There are certain things that are easier with command line or other things that might need to be done there, but it’s easier and faster to look up what those things are than navigating the purposefully buried settings in Windows and everything basic can be done in gui anyhow. You can get as technical as you want in Linux.

        The hardest thing for me about switching was finding comparable programs that I was used to. It takes time to find THE BEST PDF EDITOR or anything else on a new OS.

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          Bazzite is so user friendly that I could, and did, set it up on a Steam Deck…

          …without a mouse or keyboard, with just the Steam Deck as a controller!

          Then I figured out how to set up containers, and built a Debian environment, that can and did successfully compile different game engines from source.

          Again, without a mouse or keyboard.

          … Did I mention I’m currently crippled in the right wrist and shoulder and arm?

          Bazzite on a Deck is extremely usable.

          Just had to tweak the base Steam Control mapoing thingy a bit to be able to use common shortcuts, figure out how to do a kind of half southpaw layout for the mouse -> trackpad stuff.

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        Hey I am not in need of convincing haha. Am Linux gamer and genuinely find it easier than Windows already.

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      3 months ago

      Go install Linux Mint and you might just realize that line is already way behind microsoft.

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        Nah. Gonna stick to gaming on my GNU GUIX through Proton thanks.

        Linux is clearly not only good enough, but simpler too.

        It’s just a ton of perception, habits and sales pipelines that need moving now. If electronics stores started putting out Linux Gaming PCs, nobody buying them would be worse off than Windows. That has been true for well over a year.

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        It’s not. There are plenty of bugs and hardware issues. Bluetootth from my motherboard doesn’t work and I can’t even turn my monitor off without having to remove and reinsert HDMI.

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          My WiFi wouldn’t work until I disabled fast-boot in the BIOS and restarted the system twice.

          TBF, even with that headache, setting up a windows 11 machine without signing up for an account and personalized ads takes more effort. So I consider it a total success.

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            In the past, people assumed computers would get much easier to use. But instead you now need a comp sci degree to turn off all the BS Microsoft intentionally added to make your PC experience worse.

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          I didn’t say there were no issues.

          My 4-monitor setup at work functions considerably better in both ubuntu and debian based Linux Mints than it does in Windows. Just your standard corporate Dell laptop & docking station.

          No computers have zero weird stuff wrong with them. But over time the design intent has mattered more and more versus just the bugginess of the execution.

          In my experience though, Linux has pulled ahead in both. And by a lot.

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      Linux is fucking easy already. Plenty of Distros out there, with preinstalled KDE Plasma, which is like a almost 1-1 transition from Windows :)

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      I find that a lot of stuff is easier on Linux. Like downloading and updating most software. Heck the official Minecraft launcher works better on Linux with multiple accounts than on Windows. Just try some distro’s out

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      I feel like we actually got there a whole who, at least assuming basic use and fairly conventional hardware. Getting into the command line to fix stuff been be a pain, but so is navigating the absurd hierarchy of windows settings.

      Assuming a computer that is already set up properly it’s pretty much a seamless experience. If your mom bought a laptop with mint and just used it for regular browsing and shit she probably couldn’t tell the difference.

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        Getting into the command line isn’t the problem. It’s the lack of consistency in how things are configured and the random command names that you have to remember or look up.

        Windows might be tied to an online account, but Linux is tied to online communities to figure out nearly anything.

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      We already have obnoxiously “user-friendly” distros that make stupid assumptions we hate like windows does (Ubuntu) but get you out of box and going instantly. This has been solved. You start there, figure out what you hate, then migrate to something more your flavor.

      Windows: there are 7 flavors that all taste the same and cost different amounts. Apple: it’s free because it only runs on our machines, which cost more and subsidize the OS development. This is fine because you will never leave, we think you’re going to love it. (Introduces Liquid Glass and wonders where everyone went) BSD: firewalls, PlayStations, and neckbeards. We know what we’re about. Linux: whatever, I don’t care, just wash your hands.