• UnGlasierteGurke@feddit.org
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    16 days ago

    what’s the bottom right format?

    also, avif and webp are both supported by voyager, firefox and chromium (at least for me) but what software actually supports JPEG XL?

    Image Test

    • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
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      jxl isn’t supported because google has a near monopoly on the web and has historically been very opposed to it (also they basically control Firefox financially)

      most desktop Linux image processing software supports jxl, but only bespoke browsers like waterfox, safari and ladybird have support for it

    • Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I believe both Firefox and Chromium support JXL now, although they probably need to be enabled as an experimental setting.

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        There’s a setting called “image.jxl.enabled”, but the jxl image still isn’t visible on that link?

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      16 days ago

      I can’t even view OP’s image at all, but it’s just showing as WebP to me? Is Catbox just down?

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          Wild, you’re right, it’s apparently blocked by my mobile carrier. Tried it again with a VPN and it worked fine.

          So much for the idea of a free and open internet…

          • Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            It could just be your DNS, I’ve had problems with Cloudflare’s 1.1.1.1 and Catbox but I think they actually have a list of ISPs and DNS providers that give them issues. I don’t think you can manually specify a DNS server on cellular (without some weird workaround), but if you have issues on other networks you can try changing your DNS and see what happens.

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      JXL is coming very soon actually to Chrome, Firefox, and any up-to-date PDF viewer (they’re adding it to the format)

      Has support in eog, imageglass, whatever that foss galley app on Android is called, a lot of open source software, anything Apple (safari, iOS everywhere)

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      Why do you prefer wasting everyone’s bandwidth with the shitty 30 year old JPEG image format when every browser and every actively developed image viewer/editor supports WebP?

      Even lossless WebP is a bit better than PNG, but compared to JPEG, there’s just no question.

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      Go with the times, PNG is old as dirt now. Everything supports Webp!

      /edit: the downvotes are hilarious. People have no problem moving on from mp3 to FLAC or so, but somehow they form an emotional attachment to PNG?

      • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
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        Yes, and webp lossless is really good. JXL lossless is usually better, but either are better than png.

        Random high quality jpeg I found of a screenshot of sheet music:

        Original: 53.3 kb

        JXL: 12.2 kb

        Webp: 25.9 kb

        AVIF: 22.6 kb

        PNG: 47.3 kb

        Most are not anywhere near as favorable, that happened to be the most recent thing in my camera roll. Let me try another:

        Original PNG: 19.0 kb

        JXL: 12.9 kb

        Webp: 15.7 kb

        AVIF: 14.9 kb

        Finally, some larger and photographic content:

        Original PNG: 318 kb

        JXL: 185 kb

        Webp: 247 kb

        AVIF: 201 kb

        Encoder efforts picked to be the highest that would finish in within a few seconds in Image Toolbox on my phone. Webp doesn’t go up as high so it was finishing quicker here, and PNG doesn’t have varying effort afaik

        BTW JXL effort 1 lossless is insanely fast to encode (the order of a gigapixel per second) and also basically always smaller than PNG

  • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I have a script on my machnie that turns every crap webp that I save from Lemmy into glorious JXL.

    Honestly, Lemmy as an anti-Big System protocol/community idea should serve JXL or APNG by default.

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    Jpeg for lossy photos, png for lossless, gif for 256 color animations, what else?