• Aielman15@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    First France, now Germany. Seems Europe (at least some of us) has decided it won’t sit idly and let far-right extremists burn us to the ground.

    Although these are all provisional fixes. The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media. Democracy can’t survive if the voting base is too ignorant to choose its leaders.

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      2 months ago

      This is not a fix at all in Germany. There are no immediate repercussions of the Verfassungsschutz calling the AfD extremist. There might be more wind in the sails of the politicians that want a motion to ban them, but I’m definitely not holding my breath for it during a Merz administration.

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        I agree, it’s not a fix. However it’s also not just “calling them extremist”. It’s an official classification not just something haphazardly mentioned in a speech.

        The move, announced Friday by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), means that the AfD is no longer merely under suspicion. The agency says it now has definitive evidence that the party works against Germany’s democratic system.

        A 1,000-page internal report, according to German public broadcaster ARD, underpins the decision, citing violations of core constitutional principles such as human dignity and the rule of law.

        The new classification doesn’t ban the party, but it allows German authorities to intensify surveillance, including the use of undercover informants and monitoring communications, under judicial oversight.

        Politico

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        2 months ago

        Germany should just ban Xitter. That’s where most of this nazi infection is coming from.

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      Yeah you should ban their media, books, speech & lock them up. That’ll teach them about fascism alright.

      On a more serious note, all this decision by Germany does is make groups like AfD stronger.

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        2 months ago

        You can’t fight fascism on the marketplace of ideas. The moment you sit at the table to talk, they spring up and punch you in the face.

        Limiting circulation of fake news, holding those who spread it accountable, and forcing social networks to moderate their platform if they want to operate in the EU, should be the priority.

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      2 months ago

      and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.

      Nope. I mean it’s not wrong to do that, but it would be mistaken to see that as anything but a flanking measure: You can’t fight affect with cognition. We need real-world policy which alleviates people’s anxieties.

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    2 months ago

    I think the grand plan is to find somebody who messes up Europe from the inside, so that Americans don’t notice the difference too much.

  • Metz@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Marco Rubio can eat the peanuts out of my shit.

    With best regards from a hopefully soon fascist-free Germany.

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    Who the fuck is Rubio and why should anyone care what he has to say about anything? It says he’s the us Secretary of State in the us. Meaning he’s about as unqualified to speak up about it as my pup.

    Fuck these dumb idiots who can’t understand the difference between politics and terrorism.

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    Yes, Classify AfD as extremists.

    Because that worked so well with the NSDAP…

    (Want to clarify, yes, AfD is bad. I just think we are cooked at this point)