• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    The Soviets ate their own propaganda and thought that the future is in space and not in technological progress.

    Aerospace has been critical for industrial scale information networks, particularly climate, navigation, and logistics. I don’t think you can overstate the impact of GPS in the modern era.

    They missed the digital revolution.

    They didn’t miss it because they failed to invest in technology. They missed it because Boris Yeltsin was shelling parliament while the US was sinking billions into Intel Pentium processors.

    Nobody wants to repeat the leadership style of the successful days of the USSR.

    The USSR leadership was born out of the military that won the Second World War. The American leadership was born out of the business executives that profited off the Second World War. I don’t think you could argue either one was terribly successful in the modern era. The American system is also in decay, with leadership that is increasingly incompetent, incestuous, and outright evil.

    But because we’re swimming in US propaganda, we keep getting told “Russia Bad, America Good!” on a loop. That scares us away from any kind of rational analysis, on the grounds that questioning the status of the US is some kind of assault on American society.

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      The USSR failed much earlier.

      In 1959, as the director of a secret military computer research centre, Kitov turned his attention to devoting ‘unlimited quantities of reliable calculating processing power’ to better planning the national economy, which was the most persistent information-coordination problem besetting the Soviet socialist project.

      https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-soviets-invented-the-internet-and-why-it-didnt-work

      Stalin was leading before WW2.

      We will see how successful American leadership is if they manage to contain China. Of course, they already threw away the opportunity to maintain earth with an intact ecological environment and we are way behind what could have been. But if they manage to end up with an AI that controls the world then they win.

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        The USSR failed much earlier.

        And the US was studying psychics as late as the 2000s.

        Stalin was leading before WW2.

        Because he was a senior leader during the Russian Civil War.

        We will see how successful American leadership is if they manage to contain China.

        What do you even think that looks like at this point? They are the single largest and most productive export economy in human history, and we’re their biggest customer.

        if they manage to end up with an AI that controls the world

        Oh no, you’re one of those…

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          The USSR failed much earlier.

          And the US was studying psychics as late as the 2000s.

          What’s your point? Have you read the article? The crushed potential by ‘existing socialism’ ministers is in my opinion no less than the success of the USSR itself.

          The USA did stupid stuff with an abundance of resources. The USSR blew their future by not doing crucial things. That’s the opposite.

          What do you even think that looks like at this point?

          Same as Japan, leave them as a stagnant economy that supplies the world.

          Oh no, you’re one of those…

          Those who believe that AI is possible?

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          For context

          But because we’re swimming in US propaganda, we keep getting told “Russia Bad, America Good!” on a loop. That scares us away from any kind of rational analysis, on the grounds that questioning the status of the US is some kind of assault on American society.

          I think socialists don’t try to figure out why they are not winning. So there are the people in that above mentioned loop of US propaganda, but the people outside are in another.