• Eldritch@piefed.world
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    11 days ago

    I blame Democrats mostly. Their incompetence handed it to Trump. National parties need to go. All of them. But they couldn’t have done it without the ignorance and apathy of most Americans. All those that stayed home. And the groups that focused on attacking the Democrats ignoring this threat. Don’t get me wrong. They weren’t wrong to attack and criticize Democrats. But it wasn’t a good time to do that, and they definitely let themselves be manipulated. Who knows if well ever get another chance. But I doubt anyone learned.

    • From the outside it was very much the Democrats election to lose. The first time around Trump was a joke and losing to him was ridiculous, this time around Trump was a malicious threat and losing to him should only have been possible if you were trying to

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        If that was the case, there’d be way more evidence of it. like the Epstein situation. Democrats stupidly thought they could serve two masters forever. The ones that give them power by electing them. And the ones that give them wealth by paying them off to do their bidding. And to be fair, it did sort of work for decades.

        Don’t fall into the same trap as the magats. The world generally doesn’t know that you exist and certainly isn’t conspiring against you. Nine times out of ten, it’s selfish people doing stupid things in the moment, that they think will benefit them in the long run. They’ve been selfishly excepting kickbacks paid in American tax dollar aid to Israel refunded to them for nearly a century. No Democrats reached new levels of spindlessness, nor did Chuck Schumer set any new records for brow furrowing. Anyone who’s paid attention in the last 40 years could have said this would be the outcome.

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      I blame the dumbasses who voted for Trump, and the dumbasses who didn’t vote. It was not hard to vote against Orange Hitler if you had half a brain functioning.

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        No one is saying to ignore them. You aren’t wrong. But if anyone is ever going to get a chance to do better and actually help people. We have to understand how and why our leaders failed us. And how to work together against the ignorance and malice, that’s only going to get worse.

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      I blame Democrats mostly.

      Of fucking course you do. There was no incompetence, there was bullshit propaganda from the likes of you.

      Dumb fucking “progressives” gloating about bringing Trump back to power.

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        Yup no incompetence in an old man forgetting to tell everyone that he was going to run again. After famously making a statement about him not planning on it. Causing them to cancel the primaries that already started. Absolutely zero incompetence in just carrying on for so long not acknowledging his own declining popularity and abilities. Waiting till the last possible moment to withdrawn. No incompetence In then appointing the wet fart of a Democrat. That had spent four years as his vice president accomplishing nothing. While at the same time, being one of the least popular Democratic primary candidates from 2020. I’m sure it all went according to plan.

        Though it’s still hilarious to hear your accusation after so many tried claiming I was some sort of neoliberal. Stating that we needed to vote otherwise Trump would get in. I see no one’s learned anything, predictable.