• dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 hours ago

        No, I just want traffic lights enforced without being in a surveilance state, but the better solution is just to make more streets illegal to have cars instead of adding lights, and add bus routes instead

        But people will be lazy and say eh, surveilance state is good enough for me since Im not affected! More buses. Fewer cars. Fewer lights necessary and fewer surveliance cameras necessary.

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      17 hours ago

      The problem is not the cameras then, but the fines. Should be proportional to net worth

      • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        15 hours ago

        we both know thatll never happen in america, and until then its a law for poors only, as designed. Its continued existence only affects poor people