cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/42453153

Congress requires the Pentagon to support the scouting program’s Jamboree, a gathering of thousands of young scouts held every three or four years. The U.S. military lends trucks, ambulances and medical teams, and puts on aviation and skydiving demonstrations, all at no cost to the Scouts. For the military, it’s both a training exercise and an opportunity to recruit highly motivated, civic-minded kids.

But the law includes an exemption: the Secretary of Defense can withhold support  if he determines providing it would be “detrimental to national security.”

Drafts of a report to Congress obtained by NPR show Hegseth invoking that clause — accusing Scouting America of fostering “gender confusion.”

His memo to the House and Senate Armed Services committees argues the Scouts have strayed from their mission to “cultivate masculine values.” It also claims that with international conflicts and a tight budget, sending troops, doctors and vehicles to a 10-day youth event would harm national security by diverting resources from border operations and protecting U.S. territory.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Why not just skip the middle man, and bring back the hitler youth?

      I mean, that IS the vibe they’re going for, right?

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    My favorite part is how they are claiming it’s because military is so weak that a couple of vehicles and a staffed medical tent will cause it to collapse.

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    Jamborees are also held in other countries and for some magical reason they don’t need the military or are even opposed to be associated with military.

    So this could turn out to be a good thing that prevents kids to be raised militant, even if it causes logistic problems at first.

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    I was a Scout and I never had leaders that were inappropriate thank god, but you best believe that it was basically grooming you for the army. The amount of religious stuff they shove down your throats too, I think we can do better than the Scouts for kids. Let it die

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      We don’t push anything faith related. Our program focuses on awareness of the environment, community outreach, and most of all… Camping!

      I’m pretty sure we pay for all of it ourselves. They can keep their “funding”. It doesn’t reach us anyway.

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        Yep, same here, we never had any of that religious shit or military shit. It was all about awareness for the environment, community outreach, hiking, climbing, camping, caving. We did a ton, and our leaders where all dads who had their own kids in the program. Everyone of them were previous eagle scouts and had a lot of certs to make it a ton of fun for everyone. It sucks that the program no longer seems like that anymore.

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      Scout Troops can be very different and it all really depends on the people and the community.

      My experiences haven’t been overly military, though some scouts from the troop have gone on to join the military. Likewise, we don’t push religion hard, but some of our scouts are deeply religious and others are not.

      What I see is a program that at its heart is trying to teach youth about being responsible for themselves, being a good citizen, giving back to the community and country through charitable service, and learning some basic principles of leadership. Where else do youth get those experiences?

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    They should cut support because of the boy-man-love friendly spaces. Boy Scouts is LOUSY with pedophiles and I don’t think it’s saveable at this point.

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    “boy-friendly spaces”… how fuckin’ creepy is that phrase.

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    Well this is concerning. It’s never a good sign when there is this level of infighting in an authoritarian regime. Usually an indicator that there are too many true believers in the top echelons of government. True believers are generally the ones most likely to commit atrocities in the name of their cause

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    So proud our government is focusing on all the important things that help improve our quality of life.

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    Translating Drunk fox news moron… … …

    Beep beep boop: “our republican pedophiles do not like it when people put on the wrong clothing and this is a matter of national security”

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    On one hand, Jambo (and more) will be much more expensive for Scouting National. On the other, the military loses what I assume is a pretty decent recruiting avenue. I’m an eagle scout, and you encounter a LOT of military and religious propaganda, even though I was a part of a troop that didn’t care for any of that. It was a pretty excellent experience for me, and I made many lifelong friends, but we all wish that Scouts had let girls join a long time ago. We didn’t need yet another ‘boy-friendly space’, but building friendships, having experiences with members of the opposite sex from a young age could have been very helpful for many of the boys in our troop. Even more importantly, the separation of Girl and Boy Scouts often times (not always) led to each organization preferring ‘gender appropriate’ activities. There’s nothing inherently male about fun outdoor activities, and there’s nothing inherently female about arts and crafts and learning to sew. Both Boys and Girls can benefit greatly from these practical skills and fun outdoor time. Times are rightfully changing, and this administration is clinging to traditional values like they mean anything at all.