• Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    4 days ago

    Chuck Schumer and the rest of the establishment democrats deserve to be tossed in the dumpster like the trash they are, but I don’t think any of us want to rot in a gulag for attempting and failing.

    • harbard@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      4 days ago

      This is a very honest answer; most want revolution but are not prepared for it. But I do think we need to start putting action to words; what we say will soon be forgotten, but what we do will live on for years.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      4 days ago

      Technically, Chuck voted to keep the government shut down. According to some people other than Chuck he was in constant contact with the group who crossed the aisle for nothing in return, but he didn’t vote with them.

      • PoastRotato@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        ·
        edit-2
        4 days ago

        Yeah, the consensus seems to be that Chuck essentially engineered this new “deal” but he knew it would be wildly unpopular so he had only the senators who aren’t up for election next year vote yes, while he voted no to keep his hands clean. Classic slimy bullshit from a classic slimy bullshitter.

      • snooggums@piefed.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        4 days ago

        He offered the first shit sandwich by floating the idea of only a one year extension instead of permanent and these 8 doubled down. That was after he rolled over this past spring.

        He shares a lot of the blame.

        • elbucho@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          4 days ago

          Not just that; he’s the fucking minority leader. It’s his job to coerce Democrats to vote in a unified manner.

          • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            4 days ago

            Well, no — it’s his job to lead them in a unified vision. It’s then the whip’s job to coerce them. And Durbin, who capitulated this time, is the whip.

            So Schumer is directly responsible for Durbin, and the two of them together are responsible for all the rolling over.

      • Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        4 days ago

        I’ve been following how the senate has voted on shit from the beginning of Trump’s second presidency. What I’m finding is that they all take turns crossing the aisle to spread out the hate they would get from their own party for doing so. Schumer, and Gillibrand, who are senators for my state both voted to confirm his cabinet picks. I’ve been pissed with them since day one.

      • leadore@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        4 days ago

        That just means he found enough Dem Senators to take the heat so he didn’t have to also vote for it. It’s not like he said “Hold the line” and those 8 defied him. No, it was all agreed to between him and them. This is what he wanted. As minority leader the blame is on him in spite of his ‘no’ vote.