Lol there’s no way I’d continue working. No pay? Guess the planes stay grounded. Tough titties.
When the ATC union attempted to strike under Reagan, he fired them all in retribution and removed their ability to collect their benefits from their service.
I would imagine this admin would do even shittier things to these people who work in conditions they don’t deserve (Why the fuck is their budget not mandatory spending, Congress? Why have their facilities not have renovations approved for fucking decades?).
They failed because the other unions didn’t stand in solidarity. If every union in the country retaliated against Reagan they could have forced him to rehire. They kept their heads down to protect themselves instead of retaliation, which only accelerated the decline of unions.
Despite the decline it’s still a viable strategy. If the air traffic controllers get fired, everything gets shut down. It’s the only way.
S.24 - Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019
Sponsored by a Senator from MD, signed into law by Trump. Vote was 411-7 with the only seven Nays coming from Republicans. Trump either agreed with it at the time or knew he couldn’t veto it as it has more than 2/3 support and would override his veto right after.
Legally they all will get paid, and acrue paid leave as normal during a government shutdown. The fact that the money isn’t set aside and able to be paid for say up to a year in case of said shutdown is kind of a disgrace. Government shutdowns like this didn’t happen until “recent history” (Ronald Reagan).
So congress was definitely behind the ball, but likely never knew they’d have to face a domestic threat like this until now. (Or presumably when Trump won president the first time and they decided to write the bill to mitigate damages)
Legally they all will get paid, and acrue paid leave as normal during a government shutdown.
And as we all know, this administration is all about obeying the law.
Yeah, that’s why I had to put the word legally in there. Crazy times
Yes if I were an ATC I would definitely be worried about that. It just sucks because if the ATCs did strike it would actually significantly impact the 1%, probably moreso than almost any other labor strike could
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It’s not a strike if you’re not getting paid in the first place.
But but … Ronald Regan! Lol
Shutting down altogether is the best option for ATC but for the next best thing, I’d want to start redirecting planes to other airports - I can’t imagine the logistics would work but anyway… One in ten flights gets a “surprise” location. If all other airports did the same thing. Each week it increases, 2/10, 3/10 etc until no one gets their destination.
I find it mad that in the absence of an agreement people aren’t just paid at the existing rate
They history are.
But Trump is threatening to not pay the back pay and only pay those who pledge allegiance to him.
this is what backpay means
That’s not what I meant. Backpay is all well and good but no help if you have rent to pay or food to buy and you haven’t been paid.
Yeah I know, I have family who are furloughed right now and have been in government long enough for this to be a regular enough occurrence for them
