Listen… I don’t think you really get to call me silly here when you’re reasoning for marking this post as NSFW was the imagery it conjures up in your head is NSFW and therefore should be tagged. Mainly because you can only get that from THE WORD. Unless your argument is that the mental imagery would have been just as NSFW with the word lips.
Like I said. I am not marking this NSFW. You can feel free to remove this if you wish, but I will not mark this. It is your community, you’re the one who is allowed to decide on what you want done here. But your decisions also decide on whether or not I want to stay. And after several different inconsistent and confusing situations. I no longer know what the hell this community wants, so I don’t want to be here. I’m not trying to be a dick. I’m not trying to be antagonistic. I’m not trying to be hostile. I’m just trying to be a user who actually stands by his principles. You are free to stand by yours as well.
Understood but do please note that I asked you to mark it NSFW not because I personally had a problem with it but because others (plural) had reported it as NSFW. This isn’t the mods community, it is all of the users’ community, including those that might not be OK with your post. The reason I did not take it down is because I do find it to fall in a gray area which is why I asked you to tag it rather than take an action I deemed heavy handed.
As I said, hopefully a clear set of guidelines comes out of this which will help both users and mods. I am, of course, sad to see you go over this but if posting to the community is harmful to you due to uncertainty and a lack of clarity you need, then you should absolutely not participate. Still…I hope to see your posts again some day.
Unless the amount of reports outweigh the amount of upvotes that this post was given, then you are not ruling by democratic choice. You’re just capitulating to a minority of loud users which makes me trust you all even less.
Just because reports are made do not mean they are correct. Your job as a moderator is to look at the report and judge whether or not it actually lines up with the rules. If you do not personally believe that this lines up with the rules, then it is your job as a moderator to discuss with the other moderators whether or not you believe that it does. If you just immediately go, okay, well, I better listen to the three or four people who have reported this, then that doesn’t really demonstrate any faith in you guys as a moderator, because it proves that if somebody with multiple different accounts comes in and reports the same thing multiple times, you guys are willing to go off and listen to them. Your own system is too flawed to be reliable. It is too weighted to be fair. I do not trust this system of running a community.
What you just described is not a system run by the community. It is a community that is run by the minority.
This Instance is meant to be a safespace where we try to accommodate as many as possible, especially those that are mistreated or whose needs are ignored elsewhere. If being asked to tag something as NSFW for the safety and comfort of others, no matter how small a minority, is a bridhe too far for you then I don’t know what to tell you.
Can/Should you just mark the entire instance NSFW then?
Blur every image so that no vulnerable community members are ever confronted with an image or a word unconsenting.
The folks who stay here can click to see each post, thereby ensuing that noone gets in trouble at work because their boss or over-sensitive colleague is shoulder-surfing whilst naughty words are unconsentingly forced into the minds of innocent bystanders, thereby causing NSFW visualizations.
to be clear, I am not a contributor and bring no value to any place in Lemmy or the Internet in general, so feel free to ignore/ban/block/delete
Listen… I don’t think you really get to call me silly here when you’re reasoning for marking this post as NSFW was the imagery it conjures up in your head is NSFW and therefore should be tagged. Mainly because you can only get that from THE WORD. Unless your argument is that the mental imagery would have been just as NSFW with the word lips.
Like I said. I am not marking this NSFW. You can feel free to remove this if you wish, but I will not mark this. It is your community, you’re the one who is allowed to decide on what you want done here. But your decisions also decide on whether or not I want to stay. And after several different inconsistent and confusing situations. I no longer know what the hell this community wants, so I don’t want to be here. I’m not trying to be a dick. I’m not trying to be antagonistic. I’m not trying to be hostile. I’m just trying to be a user who actually stands by his principles. You are free to stand by yours as well.
Understood but do please note that I asked you to mark it NSFW not because I personally had a problem with it but because others (plural) had reported it as NSFW. This isn’t the mods community, it is all of the users’ community, including those that might not be OK with your post. The reason I did not take it down is because I do find it to fall in a gray area which is why I asked you to tag it rather than take an action I deemed heavy handed.
As I said, hopefully a clear set of guidelines comes out of this which will help both users and mods. I am, of course, sad to see you go over this but if posting to the community is harmful to you due to uncertainty and a lack of clarity you need, then you should absolutely not participate. Still…I hope to see your posts again some day.
Unless the amount of reports outweigh the amount of upvotes that this post was given, then you are not ruling by democratic choice. You’re just capitulating to a minority of loud users which makes me trust you all even less.
Just because reports are made do not mean they are correct. Your job as a moderator is to look at the report and judge whether or not it actually lines up with the rules. If you do not personally believe that this lines up with the rules, then it is your job as a moderator to discuss with the other moderators whether or not you believe that it does. If you just immediately go, okay, well, I better listen to the three or four people who have reported this, then that doesn’t really demonstrate any faith in you guys as a moderator, because it proves that if somebody with multiple different accounts comes in and reports the same thing multiple times, you guys are willing to go off and listen to them. Your own system is too flawed to be reliable. It is too weighted to be fair. I do not trust this system of running a community.
What you just described is not a system run by the community. It is a community that is run by the minority.
This Instance is meant to be a safespace where we try to accommodate as many as possible, especially those that are mistreated or whose needs are ignored elsewhere. If being asked to tag something as NSFW for the safety and comfort of others, no matter how small a minority, is a bridhe too far for you then I don’t know what to tell you.
Can/Should you just mark the entire instance NSFW then?
Blur every image so that no vulnerable community members are ever confronted with an image or a word unconsenting.
The folks who stay here can click to see each post, thereby ensuing that noone gets in trouble at work because their boss or over-sensitive colleague is shoulder-surfing whilst naughty words are unconsentingly forced into the minds of innocent bystanders, thereby causing NSFW visualizations.
Accommodating a minority of people who should be more responsible at the expense of posters isn’t good practice.
If someone is not ok with potentially seeing NSFW content, which this isn’t, they should not be in a place that has such content to begin with.
Nsfw tags suppress posts that aren’t actual NSFW content and remove the value of even having a nsfw tag in the first place.
This stance also makes the sub much more vulnerable to brigading if it only takes a relative few complaints to motivate you to censor someone.
I appreciate you not removing the post but harassing posters like this kills instances because the complainers don’t post.