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The whole open source community loves Milkshake Laptops, a lovely laptop company that has ethical values! 5 seconds later We regret to inform you the laptop company stans fascists

  • Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    66·
    10 days ago

    This is very in the weeds. They sponsor open source projects as a little side thing. One of the projects they sponsored is very bad, and they were publicly called out about it less than 24 hours ago. Not even enough time to make a proper response. I can’t even find on their website where they list the open source projects they sponsor. Open source sponsorship was never a major part of their business.

    This is very new news. Give them time and form your opinion on their response. Its likely that only a small subset of the team works on open source sponsorship, so most of those in charge of the company were likely unaware until now.

    edit: fixed several undecillion minor typos

    • they_herd_owl_now@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      24·
      10 days ago

      first of all, its two projects. second both got most promotion by them then other projects they sponsered. third their official people (not sure how high up but still) have responded in the thread badly. fourth the thread has no positive affirmation that they care about the fascism support but more “this specific case is probably not that”, its not hard to say u dont support fascists

      • earthworm@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        9·
        10 days ago

        The assumption is that they believe a not-insignificant portion of their customers are fascist or fascist-adjacent.

        If everyone upset about this boycotted and tanked their bottom line, they’d probably shift gears in a heartbeat.

        But I suspect that the number of fascist/fascist-adjacent customers is high enough that they need both groups’ money to survive.

        • trolololol@lemmy.worldEnglish
          14·
          10 days ago

          Well being tolerant with fascists is a no no.

          We’re taking about being tolerant with a company that’s tolerant of fascists.

          If I’m tolerant of that, would you tolerate me? Where do we draw the line?

          Not trolling, but I get that it sounds that way .

          • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldEnglish
            7·
            10 days ago

            If I’m tolerant of that, would you tolerate me? Where do we draw the line?

            You have to tolerate everyone until they are actively intolerant. If you jump the gun on not tolerating someone or something too early, then you’re being intolerant.

        • Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          2·
          9 days ago

          Most of the laptops framework sells are sold with a windows license. Only a small subset of their small subset of Linux customers are technical enough to consider which compositor they’re using, and even fewer of them are even aware that hyperland exists and is a fascist project.

          This is very in the weeds. Considering this deliberately marketing to fascists, or indicative of the company’s assumptions about their customers broadly is an insane stretch.

          Framework sells microsoft products in their store, when microsoft is actively involved in helping the IDF commit genocide in Gaza. Framework bundles microsoft products in the pre-built versions of their computers. That is far more indicative of their attitudes to their customers than their donations to open source.

          Keep the pressure on, do what you can to make open source better and uninviting to fascists, but keep perspective of reality while you do it.

          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            3·
            9 days ago

            Most of the laptops framework sells are sold with a windows license.

            Is this true? I thought they were specifically marketed to tech people because of the repairability and modularity. I didn’t even know Windows users were aware that Framework exists.