This post rubs me the wrong way because it shifts blame for a systemic issue onto individual drivers. There are a lot of drivers that should not be on the road but they are forced onto the road by a lack of viable alternatives. The resulting consequences should be blamed on those planning decisions, not on the individuals.
Idk man the community is called “fuck cars,” not “transitioning from a car-based culture to a transit-oriented culture is difficult for which I bear no personal responsibility” so it may just be the case that this isn’t the forum for you 🤷♂️
The problem is car-centric infrastructure, which the description of this community agrees with. Each person’s responsibility to fix the problem is their slice of making policy decisions that change the infrastructure. You can’t fix the problem just by getting mad at people who use the existing infrastructure.
I might also suggest that each person’s responsibility is to watch the road and not kill pedestrians like the graphic says, but I guess whatever helps you sleep at night.
The name of the comm uses aggressive language, which sets up readers for conflict right away. Not ideal, and also a reason that the attitudes in here are so hostile, whether from folks who want things different or folks who rely on or even like cars.
I always wonder how much nicer transit is in other cities. One of the last times I took the train here there was still blood smeared across the wall from a stabbing that had happened a couple weeks earlier (it was one of many that year). Every time I drive by the train stations there’s people smoking meth in the open, or someone screaming at people.
As much as I’d like to take transit, there’s not a whole lot I can do to make it safer. I vote for the parties that might make things better but get outvoted every time here. So how exactly does one “take personal responsibility” in an area where public transit is a safety hazard?
The drivers in this area are all selfish fucks that actively endanger everyone around them… bonus points 60% of them drive a great big emotional support truck. So it really is a choice between the idiots on the road or the methheads on the street, pick your favourite flavour of hazard.
I’ve been hit by a lot more cars than I’ve been stabbed by methheads so I take the bus instead. You might want to look at some actual statistics about the number of people who die from stabbing vs cars before making your decision.
I’m well aware of the statistics. Doesn’t mean I want to go directly to places where highly unstable people congregate. “Cars kill more people so the meth dens are safer” isn’t a great sales pitch. My point is that quality of transit is dependant on where you live and isn’t always the magical solution it’s painted as, as much as I wish it was.
This post rubs me the wrong way because it shifts blame for a systemic issue onto individual drivers. There are a lot of drivers that should not be on the road but they are forced onto the road by a lack of viable alternatives. The resulting consequences should be blamed on those planning decisions, not on the individuals.
Idk man the community is called “fuck cars,” not “transitioning from a car-based culture to a transit-oriented culture is difficult for which I bear no personal responsibility” so it may just be the case that this isn’t the forum for you 🤷♂️
The problem is car-centric infrastructure, which the description of this community agrees with. Each person’s responsibility to fix the problem is their slice of making policy decisions that change the infrastructure. You can’t fix the problem just by getting mad at people who use the existing infrastructure.
I might also suggest that each person’s responsibility is to watch the road and not kill pedestrians like the graphic says, but I guess whatever helps you sleep at night.
The name of the comm uses aggressive language, which sets up readers for conflict right away. Not ideal, and also a reason that the attitudes in here are so hostile, whether from folks who want things different or folks who rely on or even like cars.
Cool, man. Fuck cars.
I always wonder how much nicer transit is in other cities. One of the last times I took the train here there was still blood smeared across the wall from a stabbing that had happened a couple weeks earlier (it was one of many that year). Every time I drive by the train stations there’s people smoking meth in the open, or someone screaming at people.
As much as I’d like to take transit, there’s not a whole lot I can do to make it safer. I vote for the parties that might make things better but get outvoted every time here. So how exactly does one “take personal responsibility” in an area where public transit is a safety hazard?
The drivers in this area are all selfish fucks that actively endanger everyone around them… bonus points 60% of them drive a great big emotional support truck. So it really is a choice between the idiots on the road or the methheads on the street, pick your favourite flavour of hazard.
I’ve been hit by a lot more cars than I’ve been stabbed by methheads so I take the bus instead. You might want to look at some actual statistics about the number of people who die from stabbing vs cars before making your decision.
I’m well aware of the statistics. Doesn’t mean I want to go directly to places where highly unstable people congregate. “Cars kill more people so the meth dens are safer” isn’t a great sales pitch. My point is that quality of transit is dependant on where you live and isn’t always the magical solution it’s painted as, as much as I wish it was.