cross-posted from: https://lemmy.org/post/1872634

So, starting now, Google started mandating full JS for YT, effectively breaking all third-party clients and locking the site to their official client.

This reeks of DRM.

UPDATE: Installing Deno and installing yt-dlp through PyPi fixes yt-dlp but the very idea that Google is mandating JS to lock down YT in an attempt at pseudo-DRM is still crappy.

UPDATE #2: inv.nadeko.net is working again for now.

  • herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml
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    57 minutes ago

    my yt-dlp is on a daily auto-update loop, so I missed this. It’s working still. My thanks go to the amazing yt-dlp devs.

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    2 hours ago

    The world needs a p2p alternative, what are our current options? I wouldn’t mind alocating 500GB or more of my storage space just to get rid of these fuckers. These fascist gangsters are taking millions of people hostage who depend on YT for their livelihood…

  • MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I am so glad I had the foresight to use yt-dlp to back up most of my favorite videos. Not all of them, but I just thought we’d get more time.

    But yeah, I knew this would happen. The age verification thing was really controversial, so Google would have had to expect that people would try to find other ways to access YouTube. They won’t stop here and will go after Deno and NewPipe.

    I’m pretty much done with YouTube. It’s just not what it used to be. All my favorite YouTubers are either gone, have changed for the worse, or are on Nebula. It’s mostly just slop, and I won’t miss it.

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      Sadly there’s so much good music from the 2000s on there that I can’t find elsewhere. Small bands that never really broke through.

      Inaccesible because of autocratic morons.

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      Nebula is just a better experience most cases too. It just shows you what you’re subscribed to in chronological order, which is how YouTube used to work when it was less annoying.

      It also shares more revenue with creators and doesn’t force feed you ads. I really hope it continues to grow and never betrays its roots.

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    6 hours ago

    As someone who is listening to a video on NewPipe as I type this very comment, no they did not

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      6 hours ago

      Came here to say this after giving it 24 hours in case it was just lucky timing

      However, now if I try to watch a YT vid in Firefox, I get the “Oops something went wrong” right when the Ad should have popped up

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        5 hours ago

        I’ve gotten that occasionally, it usually fixes with a refresh. Was it persistent for you?

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          yeap… happened again after the refresh

          I had almost given up on youtube since they blank out your home if you do not allow them to track history so this may have started a bit back. I only went on it because someone sent me a link and I just opened it directly… all in all, just another reason to not use YouTube

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            2 hours ago

            Haha I actually love having a blank Home (and especially blank Shorts) since as it has significantly moderated excessive YT use for me. I’m honestly surprised that was their course of action as it ultimately had reduced my use of the app.

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            5 hours ago

            Well, that’s super lame! I wish there was a good alternative. I’ll probably stick with it as long as ReVanced works.

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      I’m gonna start listening to podcasts, they’re more informative and less bandwidth heavy anyway.

    • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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      It’s so weird hearing about YouTube ads. I can’t recall ever seeing one. I know one day they’re going to finally ruin it and I won’t be able to consume it any more, an event I try to prepare for, but I haven’t really done anything special to avoid ads except all the stuff you have to do just to be secure on the web in the first place. Like just using librewolf out of the box works fine?

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    They’re going to keep enshitifying it until they kill it completely. Them blackholes, I mean shareholders, will never have enough money.

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      15 hours ago

      The market that accesses YouTube from a PC or Mac is shrinking rapidly.

      They would prefer you use one of the apps and at some point that will be the majority, if it isn’t already

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        That is by design.

        With an actual computer, you have a lot more options in terms of how you can handle the content. They don’t own your PC (yet) but they do own the mobile market and the operating system entirely.

        You don’t have any form of root/admin access on a mobile device of any type nor any other device (tv box, game console, tablet, etc). For the handful that have jailbroken or rooted their phones, many apps don’t work (by design of course). You can do it, but you’ll break a ton of stuff in the process. That’s enough to keep causals from doing it and leaves the tiny group of hardcore dorks that are willing to live with the complexities that are required.

        I’m going to put on my tinfoil hat and say this is what keeps any real attempt at a Linux phone in the gutter. If people had a choice for their mobile operating system and the freedom to do what they want with it, the big tech companies would shit a brick. They’ve already removed the ability to block ads on mobile devices for the vast majority, they’re finally getting what they wanted (save the handful of Firefox users left).

        Linux phones won’t be a thing until there is hardware for them. With apple/google phones, the manufacturers will not release the necessary software so that is needed for a 3rd party OS. Google and Apple will make sure that anyone who makes hardware for them are legally tied to keeping that software tightly closed. Even if someone did manage to reverse engineer it, it would be a herculean effort and would break as soon as a new release is out (or if one of the manufacturers “accidentally” released some exploit code for the reverse engineered drivers).

        It’s an ugly world these greedy fucks have made for us.

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          It’s an ugly world these greedy fucks have made for us.

          We EAGERLY helped them. We walked into the cage and clasped the manacles all by ourselves.

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            Who’s “we” though?

            I see the largest two camps here as (1) casuals that don’t have the know how to protest via alternatives and (2) the tech literate that are willing but ultimately limited by the larger forces at work.

            I think it’s fair to blame the people with the power that exploited the first group and left the second without choice.

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        13 hours ago

        Yeah last I’ve seen even smartphones and tablets are decreasing quickly relative to smart TVs.

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          7 hours ago

          What??? Where did you see this? I would assume the mobile market is still skyrocketing.

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    23 hours ago

    Holy shit I did not realize how complex of a project yt-dlp has to be to do something as simple as download a video… Kudos to the devs

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    This post’s title is just completely incorrect and it looks like 700+ people didn’t even read the comments or the actual issue for one minute.

    Good job guys!

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      23 hours ago

      Which extension are you referring to? Is it the standard Wayback Machine extension or a youtube specific one?

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        Didnt want to name specifics because they might not exist for certain browsers, but you can search “archive” and there will be many

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      It’s annoying but I guess they’re just evolving their anti spam mechanisms, which shouldn’t surprise anyone.

      JS is one of the most popular scripting languages anyway so having it as a requirement shouldn’t hinder anyone.

      And not to throw shade at the people who designed yt-dlp, but designing a tool to “scrap” the content of an evolving platform in a different language (with different tooling etc) than the one said platform is expecting to be consumed by might have been a mistake

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        anti spam? on the video player? you cannot think is seriously.

        JS is one of the most popular scripting languages anyway so having it as a requirement shouldn’t hinder anyone.

        except any of the clients that care about not running whatever untrusted google code in an unrestricted environment.

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    Currently Freetube hasn’t worked the last couple days. Wonder if this is why. Usually its fixed in a few days, so no worries

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      Beginning very soon, you’ll need to have the JavaScript runtime Deno installed to keep YouTube downloads working as normal.

      if only you could read 😔

      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Installed where?
        Can’t recall installing such a runtime manually.
        Is it bundled with yt-dlp?
        So many questions…If only one could be precise