• coffee_nutcase207@lemmy.world
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    I’m a actually not that cynical of it. In her book she was critical of who the establishment in the Biden administration treated her.

    Worse case is she’s endorsing him to make her self look good. But honestly I think it’s great she did endorse him. It will go a long way with causal/centrist democrats and centerist independents.

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      It’s kinda how I feel about corporations supporting good things. People will point out that they’re only doing it for money or whatever, but I don’t care. If they all start supporting and normalizing good things, I don’t care that it started for dumb reasons.

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        I disagree. Does only the end goal matter? Or does intention also matter?

        I would argue that intent is actually more important in the long run. I could perform an act today that helps people, but if my intent wasn’t to help people, then the act will be singular. There will be no “drive” toward greater acts that help even more people. No continuous improvement. No learning from mistakes and growing. Why? Because if I don’t actually care about helping people, none of that background stuff is happening which actually moves you toward your goals in the long run

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          I would rather you do one act today that helps people for completely selfish reasons and never again, than have you do zero acts that help people.

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            What is the intent in each case? I perform one act today with selfish intent that happens to help someone, but what about tomorrow? Or the next day? Am I improving on the act to see if I can help more people tomorrow? Not with selfish intent I’m not.

            Today I tried with good intention to help someone. It doesn’t work. But, my true intent is to help- so I learn from my mistake today because I genuinely care, and tomorrow I now help one person with my act. I continue to improve and grow as a person, and over the next few years, I am helping out many others and bringing joy into the lives of those around me, inspiring others to also live their lives with good intention, creating a ripple effect.

            I believe that is much more important than any kind of selfish intent, no matter how much the selfish act happened to help today.

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              Intent matters but it’s not more important than the act itself.

              Person A does a helpful act today for selfish reasons. Person B wants to help people but wants to make sure they are helping in the right way, so they don’t do anything today while they try to figure out the best way to do it. Tomorrow they both get hit by a bus.

              What’s more important? That Person B had good intentions, or that Person A actually fucking helped someone?

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                Long term growth vs short term gain. Person B reflects and realizes they spent the day trying to be perfect, since they have good intention, and thus will reflect on their actions in an effort to improve. Next day they stop trying to be perfect and instead act.

                Of course, both getting hit by a bus tomorrow makes my argument null, since it’s predicated on long term growth over short term gain. But most people aren’t getting hit by a bus tomorrow.

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                  Person B reflects and realizes they spent the day trying to be perfect, since they have good intention, and thus will reflect on their actions in an effort to improve.

                  Do they? You invented a lot there about someone you don’t know.

                  Person B continues to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. They keep getting overwhelmed by options and never end up helping anybody.

                  Person A helped in order to get recognition at work. It worked and helped give that extra push that got them promoted. They continue to do this on a yearly basis despite not liking it because it makes them look good to their employer.

                  It can go either way, someone helping for selfish reasons might be the start of them helping for genuine reasons or might be the last time they help at all. You can’t know. I’ll still gladly take someone helping for selfish reasons than them not helping at all.

                  Would it be better if they had good intentions? Of course! But it would also be worse if they didn’t act at all.

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      I’m taking the broad position that last-minute endorsements of Mamdani are just saving face for the establishment. That window closes in mid-October or so.

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        Want change in the party This is how it happens. Purity tests leave you a political outsider. Welcome each endorsement and they can be reminded later.

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      Watch the whole interview, its so bad. She has terrible instincts.

      Her “endorsement”: I support the democrat, but there are other stars too, like <insert 2 names I literally never heard of> from other mayoral races. Just pissing on the most popular candidate in the country and taking 2 random mayors down with her, instead of “Mandami is great, and I’m really hopeful about these other guys”

      She complains that “titans of industry” didn’t step in to stop Trump. Her goal isn’t to help the american people, but to “restore the guardrails of our institutions”. Isn’t her dad supposed to be a Marxist? Have they never been in a room for 5 minutes?

      Turns out Newsom is as petty as you would expect, while Pelosi and Obama were so ideologically westwing-brained they were more concerned about Biden “having his moment” than actually winning.

      Close friend of Trump and Epstein, Bill Clinton, seemed eager to support anyone who had a better shot than post-shitting-himself-debate Biden.

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      Well anyone can see that the far left will eventually turn against Mamdani just as they turn against everyone else LOL.

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      Why would she care. She could likely apply for political asylum in say France and leave the country and never have to work another day in her life. She’s 60, she doesn’t owe anyone anything. She won’t run for president, and I doubt she wants to enter another 4 years of VP from 64-68 years old.

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        Doesn’t owe anyone anything? She kept prisoners in jail past their sentences to use them as slave labor. She literally owes reparations.

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    I love how what would have been mundane and not news worthy with any other candidates (democratic politicians endorsing a democratic candidate for mayoral office) now makes headlines with Mamdani. And by love I mean hate.

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      It’s going to be wild when he gets in and starts making decisions that are actually quite popular and seeing mainstream dems fall all over each other to claim that they were with him all along.

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      The primary is over. The general election is in November.

      So far, Mamdani is out in front by a wide margin, though. I don’t want to count any chickens before they hatch, but it’d take a lot for anyone else to beat him.

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    In the most unenthusiastic way possible. But it’s better than an outright rejection.

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      Oh come on! This is just her yet again pandering to the left of the party to get votes. Why won’t she just grow a spine and standup for the values that she stood for. /s

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        She knows how to get the lefts votes and she knows its not going to happen by simply half-endorsing mamdani. She has to say Israel is committing a genocide and endorse universal human rights or she has no chance in hell.

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      No, but it demonstrates once again that all your “lesser evil” dems will burn the party down before they allow a real alternative to fascism.