So how many of the 24 offenders are affiliated with the Democratic Party or any other mainstream reformist, progressive or leftist organisation? The answer is none. The only perpetrator arguably from the Left is Black nationalist Quintez Brown.
Trump not alone in falsely blaming others for his own evil.
Immediately after Kirk’s killing, Elon Musk tweeted, ‘The Left is the party of murder’.
I can’t believe we’re still having this discussion after what we watched live with our own eyes.
They started gaslighting about it on Day One.
Some asshat on Denver Post forums went out of his way to say things like “INSPLURECTION!” whenever anyone, bending over backwards if you ask me, called it an insurrection (I think it should be called terrorism, and certainly not a fucking “riot”).
For example.
It’s not really a discussion. They know damn well they are full of shit. But for the most part, they got away with it because we have a history of being soft when it comes to consequences for traitorous behavior.
I literally had the fucking guided tour a year before the insurrection and I called out my MAGA ass family who were there with me saying this shit.
I took the guided tour years ago and definitely don’t remember beating a police officer to death with a flag pole.
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Everything is projection with conservatives. Even when their followers are holding the smoking gun they accuse the left of the murder.
Even when their followers are holding the smoking gun they accuse the left of the murder.
It really is the left’s fault. The conservative terrorists only attack in response to the left trying to be inclusive. And even if the left didn’t directly coerce an attack, it’s still their fault because they should have stopped it since they’re always talking about protecting others. Check and mate.
I have to put /s because these are based on actual arguments used by conservatives…
One of the first things that Kokehead Patel did was shut down the group that was tracking right-wing threats.
If Harris had been elected, good chance Kirk would still be stealing oxygen.
I have to put /s because these are based on actual arguments used by conservatives…
I’ve seen all those arguments and many more. /s is absolutely required.
It’s straight up lies from the top. Lower down believers project but the leaders are purposely lying to make projections easier.
The difference is that people who project their faults aren’t necessarily aware that they’re projecting. The Republican leaders know what they’re saying is not only false but that they themselves are guilty of their accusations.
The child rapist wants his voters to forget he’s a child rapist
If there was actually ever any left wing terrorism in the modern day, you would genuinely never hear the end of it
It would be bigger in the media than hurricane Katrina
I really like the chart in the article that shows that hate crimes committed by white individuals was going down before Trump started his political career with a bit more earnest.
Does it even matter that/if this guy wasn’t a leftist? The left has been celebrating and condoning the murder – isn’t that what actually counts? (I say this as someone who’s mostly leftist, slightly liberal.)
Edit: to be clear, I’m not saying that condoning violence and committing violence are morally equal. I’m saying: we can’t simultaneously celebrate and condone the murder and also act like we have the high ground for for not being the party of political violence. That’s having the cake and eating it too.
You think the tone of people discussing a murder afterwards is more important than the literal act of murder itself? The fuck are you talking about?
No. Praising a murder doesn’t actually count as much as committing one in any reasonable system of ethics or morality.
I’m not claiming that.
What do you expect after years and years of the right being violent and murdering the left? People get sick of being bullied
This seems unrelated to what I was saying. You’re talking about what one should expect. Of course I expect political violence.
How is it unrelated?
I was saying that if the left is broadly condoning the murder, then it might as well be the party that murdered Kirk.
And I’m saying that it is conditional. Sucks that we’re here but it’s not surprising. I can’t say agree with your last part. People are also very grey individually so there is no monolith to how someone will react.
Sure, but I feel like it’d be celebrated more if it transpires that the killer is really hard right. Delicious irony.
And the US “left” continues to sit by and let this escalate.
Why don’t we think Tyler Robinson aligns with “the left?” I know there was a lot of misinformation on him, but the situation is becoming more clear. We’ll learn more in the coming weeks.
Lastly, right wing influencer Charlie Kirk was shot last Wednesday by Tyler Robinson, a white student from a gun-loving Republican Mormon family. Robinson has no party links, but has reportedly embraced the extremism of right wing racist Nick Fuentes.
Does this still seem correct? His family was conservative, but he was not. Who reports he embraced Nick Fuentes? His family? His partner? Or just “some people” with no credibility?
I got the downvotes but no answers. There was a lot of celebration that Tyler Robinson was a conservative, and the article this post is about pretty much was only written to add him to the list. So, what happens if it turns out he killed Kirk because Kirk was too right wing, not because he was part of a rival right wing faction?
Are we going to own up to the misinformation propagated through the Fediverse?
If you were unaffiliated & didn’t vote in '22 or '24 and had the legal ability to do so, then no, I don’t think you can be considered a progressive or liberal.
This is almost **exactly **what had been predicted for years was going to happen when a MAGAt is primed for violence & then realizes they’ve been lied to the entire time.
This one doesn’t count as political?
Alvarado ICE facility attack: 11 charged in ‘ambush’ on ICE officers, officials say
Were the attackers known to be on the left and not just a bunch of dissatisfied right wingers like Crooks and Routh?
Edit: not to mention the list is about people who target politicians, and ICE isn’t a politician.
Neither was Charlie Kirk…
I don’t think we know for sure, but their slogans suggest that they’re leftists, so it seems worth at least a mention.
ICE isn’t a politician, so it doesn’t fit on the list in the article which is all about people committing political violence.
See my other comment reply: directly challenging the government’s monopoly on the use of force seems like one of the most political possible acts.
Try to stick with the topic. Expanding the list to people being violent against the government is going to include dozens more examples of right wingers which we know based on the federal website that was pulled down shortly after the attack so it wouldn’t openly contradict their lies about violence from the left.
Oh, and all the fucksticks that tried to overthrow the 2020 election.
ICE are dogs. Dogs don’t know politics. They obey their masters that’s all. And a rabid attack dog off the leash must be put down.
And if we add all the SovCit attacks on cops etc, it would come out even further right dominated.
Thats just what those vile, insidious leftists want you to think! /s
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