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QuantumSpecter@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago

The EU still wants to scan all your chats – and the rules could come into force by October 2025

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The EU still wants to scan all your chats – and the rules could come into force by October 2025

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QuantumSpecter@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago
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Chat Control is back on the lawmakers' table
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    This is not the Europe I remember…

  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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    Is the EU not subject to GDPR?

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      The EU decides what’s GDPR. And it seems recently it decided to not be buggered by those old ideas that are privacy, freedom, etc.

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    I’m starting to edit idcaboutprivacy more and more often (and that’s not a good thing)

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      Dude, I decided to make a personal note with lots of similar links regarding privacy, so that I can provide the source when I discuss these matters with people. But yours in much more thorough - and public. Thanks for saving me a ton of work!

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    It’s not the EU yet. It’s a group of activists from Denmark. There wasn’t even preliminary voting on it yet.
    Doesn’t mean we need to be complacent of course, but so far nothing happened.

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      but so far nothing happened

      Things happens frighteningly fast these days. It’s not a matter of being complacent; it’s a matter of budding things in the nip. Which won’t work. Then tirelessly fight back against it.

      Unless you’ve been sleeping under a rock these last few… weeks. Not even months. Some legislation can go from 0 to 100 extremely quickly if left unchecked.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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      What activists? I need their names, for personal research reasons.

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        I don’t know who reintroduced it, but here the original one https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=COM%3A2022%3A209%3AFIN&qid=1652451192472

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    Maybe it’s time to restart some some old Greek traditions and propose a law that anyone proposing chat control - from here on out - gets banished for life from entering European soil ever again.

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      They were smart, those oiled fish-eating goatfuckers. So maybe yes, that - and also sortition and ostracism.

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    Thank god my OS doesn’t care about EU regulation

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      As long as owning a device that allow full E2E encryption without spyware isn’t illegal.

      It bears repeating a lot of time : the technology to circumvent these things exist, and will continue to exist. However, there’s nothing preventing obtuse lawmakers from making it illegal to own. And then, it’s just a matter of catching someone and finding some rooted android phone in his pocket.

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    Ugh, this shit again…

    Are there any initiatives out there to call a stop to this? Or even better, initiatives to introduce legislation that forbids setting up this kind of surveillance infrastructure altogether?

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      The annoying thing is that some states like Germany pretty much prohibit surveillance of this extend by constitution. It couldn‘t be made any harder for a legislation like this to pass and yet they keep trying.

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      Your local Pirate Party and organizations like Bits of Freedom can help out.

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    The fuck is happening over there? Was there lead in the water?

    • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
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      It’s not lead, it’s Russians

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    STASI enters the chat.

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldBanned
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      Their kind never leaves the chat, it’s a professional habit

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    They won’t.

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      If you’re a citizen of an EU country, you should contact your politicians to tell them not to, maybe they won’t.

      It only has to pass once, and they keep trying.

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        Contacting politicians directly is good, but joining orgs like the Electronic Frontier Foundation or Privacy International multiplies your impact since they have lawyers and can actualy challenge these laws in court.

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        Some keep trying. That’s how democracy and politics works in general.

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          Nah, a logical OR in their favor is not how democracy should work.

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      With SKG going as well as it is, wouldn’t an ECI on chat control be in order?

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    Encryption. Is easy.

    • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      you know this means they get the keys, right?

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    Welcome to earth, Everybody Sucks Here.

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    Wtf. Is Signal going to be affected? I just recently installed Signal on my phone.

  • oni ᓚᘏᗢ@lemmy.world
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    time to make my own shitty ass software to deal with this stuff

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      should check existing options first:

      • Briar
      • Simplex
      • Tox
      • Matrix and elements as frontend
      • xmpp
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