• FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml
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      Not really. Its a censorship campaing in preparation for war. First they will say its to save the kids, then freedom, then democracy, and when people come to understand whats happening it will be already too late

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    We’re on the second generation that grew up with easy access to Internet porn. How about we admit this is how things work, and it doesn’t turn kids into serial killers or whatever?

    Teach them about it. What they see in porn is not how people have sex for real (and be specific!). Consent should be followed. Don’t post revenge porn, and avoid watching it. Here’s how to look for porn that emphasizes consent on set. The performers are real people with real lives beyond sex, and they deserve a basic level of respect as human beings. And so on.

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      That goes against the control freaks wanting to limit our sources of pleasure to ways they can comfortably exploit.

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        This is what it’s about. They groom you to feel shameful and sell themselves as the only solution to the problem they created in you

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    I honestly don’t care if little Timmy touches himself. I’m concerned if 50 year old pastor Tommy touches Timmy but short of that, I could give a damn. I think it’s super creepy to insert adults into a minors self-sex life.

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    I think the meme got the conversation backwards. It started with “How can we track people on-line and take away encryption?”

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    It’s not about protecting children. It’s about “protecting everyone from God’s wrath”, as the people told me within those circles just when I left, but they still trusted me enough to have a “birds and the bees” talk with me (context: they think regular citizens are like prepubescent children, and need to be lied to in the sake of their well being).

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    One reason I think this whole thing is stupid, when saying it’s ‘for the children’, is because I don’t think the old folks responsible for this remember what it’s like as a young person.

    This won’t protect anything. When I was a teenager I’m pretty sure I got turned on by a dot matrix style 3x6 black and green screen, showing large dots of what was meant to be Pamela Anderson.
    Hell, I’m almost certain we all knew someone in school who would probably have gotten off at two balloons caught in a mop.

    Just seems more like a way to make judgement on Adults.

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    Eh I take issue with this meme. It implies that people, even kids, who seek out porn were (or are being) raised poorly and I cannot agree with that.

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      I think that it really says that the parents themselves should stop their children from watching porn instead of getting the government to do it for them.

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    we could make parents actually parent their children

    No, you couldn’t, nor could anyone else including your government. If someone had figured out a practical way to just “make” parents into better parents, we would’ve done that by now, for all sorts of reasons (education, crime, …).

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      We used to not expect this much of parents. Children used to be raised by the community (it takes a village to raise a child). They still are in lots of villages around the world. What’s unnatural is the nuclear family and the idea that 2 parents spend all their waking hours split between working and parenting.

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    Internet id laws are fucking stupid but making parents do a good job has historically worked super well. Also parents are abusers the overwhelming majority of the time, depending on source 75-83% of child abuse is perpetuated by parents (physical/neglect). Depending on how you define things sexual abuse is perpetuated by parents or a close family member roughly 1/3rd of the time and up to as much as 80% of the time

    How do you “make” parents do a good job? There are things we can do that increase the likelihood that bad parents get caught (sex education, teaching kids proper anatomy, lgbt education, etc) but those things are controversial because of the shitheads demanding id laws.

    Parent training is something you can do I suppose but how do you handle this? What is the proper curriculum? What is the consequence if the parents don’t take it seriously? How do you determine if the parents aren’t taking it seriously vs they have their own systemic issues (poor education, lack of resources, etc)? The state isn’t going to help them with money or education, at least not currently

    Welcome to western pediatric mental health treatment in 2025. Political barriers everywhere before you can even start to talk about “evidence based approaches” and that discussion can’t even begin because everyone is stupid now and wants the answer to be an easy sentence long solution. “Make the parents do it”, “increase mental health funding”, “stop bullying” and other nonsense platitudes that are meaningless without pages and pages of actionable steps behind them.

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      Maybe having all parents undergo courses once one is pregnant? And when a birth occurs of an unregistered pregnancy, have them undergo the course nevertheless, so they can’t just skip it.

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    Every time we got a new inverter provider I was on the admin section of the router options to tinker with the settings so the kids wouldn’t and couldn’t get to (at least the most obvious) of dodgy websites.
    They also had a strict schedule of when they could use the internet AND I set up a logger so I could go through the websites that they visited. And it would flag up anything untoward.

    Ok, I’m tech savvy and not everyone could do this straight away. However, if you really want to parent your child you would either learn to do it or ask someone to help.

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    Just how is a government supposed to make parents actually parent their children? That sounds like it would be an even worse surveillance state than requiring ID to view porn.