Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I’m disappointed in framework’s answer so far

  • ExLisperA
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    21 hours ago

    Is the code racist? If not I don’t care who wrote it.

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      19 hours ago

      Spoken like a German industrialist in the 1930s-40s or a buyer of Krugerrands in the 1980s.

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        18 hours ago

        Is Hyprland used to oppress people? Are profits from Hyprland used to oppress people? If not your analogy doesn’t make any sense.

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      This is a tricky one. If a bigot says the sky is blue, they’re not wrong about that. Other things, sure, but not that.

      Maybe we could take their efforts and use it against them somehow. That is to say, we might deliberately use that code for anti-hate purposes, perhaps, subverting the bigot’s preferred goals. Make it so that any gain they might have had is overtaken by their disgust at how it’s being used.

      On the other hand, taint is by association. There’s a really neat and geometrically useful symbol; fourfold symmetry, previously used by Hindus, that picked up an extremely negative association around 90 years ago, for example, and short of humanity forgetting history, we’re never getting that one back.

      If you were someone helped by that code being used against bigotry and you found out where it came from, you’re probably going to have mixed feelings about it when you finally get the time to reflect.

      You might understand why people would want to avoid it, even if it is correct.

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        14 hours ago

        It’s instructions running on a CPU. Is the application used to hurt people? If not I don’t care who put the instructions in a specific order.

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      Yeah, one cannot support open source development and assume everyone has the same political opinions as you.

      Framework supports open source development, and for that I’m damn happy.

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        16 hours ago

        assume everyone has the same political opinions as you

        I don’t think that’s the issue here. You can be conservative and not support the “great replacement theory” or think that all muslims are bad.