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We thought it was coming down on top of us, and two firemen, big, strong guys—and I’m not the smallest guy in the world—they grabbed me under the arm, said, ‘Got to get out of here!’ And they literally lifted me up.”

It’s been a while since I’ve seen South Park, but aside from their religious stuff, their humour, or attempts thereof, strikes me as either right-wing, lame, or both.

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No, and that’s a strawman. But the Americans who are sitting back going “well I voted for Kamala, it’s not MY problem” are bad. And that’s all I said.

what you said:

https://lemmy.world/post/51348178/25602197

Yeah - until I see George W Bush hanging in The Hague, Americans should probably shut the fuck up about their advice to other countries on how to deal with war criminals.

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The rest of your nonsense is the same strawman.

Perhaps in other words, you can’t be bothered trying to refute what I posted.

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Who murdered more Ukrainians? Hitler or Stalin?

Hitler.

You’re probably right.

wp:Holodomor

Around 3.5 to 5 million in Ukraine; see death toll

wp:World War II casualties of the Soviet Union#Estimated losses by Soviet republic

6,850,000

So I guess neither the Germans in the 1940s were in any position to criticize the Soviets over Holodomor, nor the Russians in the 1930s were in any position to criticize Ukraine.

I might depend on size and where.

If it’s smaller than the ones used on Japan and not in Tehran, there will be less protest than if it was a megaton bomb used on Tehran.

Much sadness, some attempts to justify, and some cheering.

The other nuclear-armed countries will feel validated that they have nukes.

Then maybe some amazement when Iranian drone strikes on American ships continue.

“MEIN FÜHRER!!! I CAN WALK!..”

FWIW,

wp:History of the Falkland Islands,

wp:Timeline of the history of the Falkland Islands,

and,

wp:David Jewett

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David Jewett (June 17, 1772 – July 26, 1842) was an American-born Brazilian naval officer known for his role in the sovereignty dispute between the United Kingdom and the United Provinces of the Río de la Plata (the predecessor state of Argentina) over the Falkland Islands. He was a naval commander in the Quasi-War with France and following the end of that conflict he offered his services as a mercenary in both the United Provinces and the Empire of Brazil. Licensed as a privateer by the United Provinces to seize Spanish ships, he was later accused of piracy following the seizure of American and Portuguese flagged vessels. Jewett finished his career in the Imperial Brazilian Navy, serving under Lord Cochrane and died in Rio de Janeiro in 1842.

It seems that according to your political morality, Hitler, every member of the SS, every guard in Auschwitz, every other member of the Nazi Party, and every other German who didn’t make it out of the country or didn’t want to wind up in prison or dead in a probable futile fight, is equally bad.

Meanwhile Churchill, every British soldier, every other citizen of United Kingdom, including every Nazi sympathizer and/or imperialist is equally good.

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No American can talk about another country’s bad deeds because what America is doing.

America had no business invading Nazi Germany, until they first got rid of their racism, and maybe paid restitution for slavery and return territory to the indigenous.

UK had no business invading Nazi Germany until they allowed their territories in Africa and Asia to go independent. Hitler murdered Jews and Slavs, Churchill murdered Bengalis.

Similar with France. How dare they fight against Vichy when they fought against anti-imperialists in Algeria.

Who murdered more Ukrainians? Hitler or Stalin? Maybe the Western allies such as the US should have let them fight it out.

Thank you for your reply.

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(Also, note that the country is VERY small. On the scale of Wyoming, the least populous state in the USA.)

or maybe Delaware with half the population,

or maybe Northern Ireland with a third the area and population,

or maybe Jamaica with half the area and a fourth the population.

🙂

I suppose yes.

So imagine a German in 1943 denouncing the US for its horrible treatment of blacks and indigenous at the time and maybe the past 10 years earlier.

An American replies, “Shut the hell up! Your country is a Nazi dictatorship! You shouldn’t be lecturing anyone about the bad treatment of minorities and other peoples!”

“I’m not a Nazi, in the last 3 elections, I voted SPD.”

“It doesn’t matter, Hitler runs your country. He was elected because at heart you’re all Nazis!”

It doesn’t with me, though FWIW, I’m in Toronto.

I decided to stop using Google and YouTube for this month (i.e. September 2026), so now I’m using DuckDuckGo.

Google seems to have gotten worse, and as a Canadian I’m a bit ticked how they caved in on Trump over the “Lake America” thing.

I also use Wikipedia, Wiktionary, and Wikidata ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page ).

As one over 50, death, such as by suicide, is (FAIK) irreversible.

The living can choose death, but the dead can’t choose life: they can choose nothing.

While I don’t have the vigour when I was, say, in my 20s, I still feel (at times at least) vigourous.

Ditto strength.

I might be mentally better, and such might last for a decade or 2.

Technology has gotten better. For example, there was a time when I was over 18 that I couldn’t post stuff like this on the internet, yet here I am making posts.

If someone doesn’t commit suicide, it might mean that wt:thon wants to live.

I mean, personally I had seen people get more lonely, less independent and if they are still not working and don’t have kids to support them then they are fucked, when they reach that age.

Some people prefer to be alone.

How independent are we anyway?

They can be supported by the government and/or accumulated wealth.

One could ask the same question at pretty well any age.

over 150 in under 9 minutes.

I suppose, for an example, that one should think twice before complimenting a female co-worker on her breasts.

I suppose the weaker countries aren’t the big problem, and peacekeeping forces have been deployed to a few of them in the past.

Now that’s a decent counter-argument.

and Stalin and Mao combined murdered over 100 million or some similar figure, so if you like either, you’re worse than a Nazi.

I do not. Wtf

good to know. 😁 🙂

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That’s not the same as mass murder.

The how would you call letting millions die of hunger and sickness willingly? According you your logic Hitler was also not responsible for mass murder, he let others do the work for him. This is fucking bullshit.

One might be able to say the same about the leader of any developed country with a GDP of over $1 trillion, or maybe one of our alleged “trillionaires” such as Musk.

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Did he murder 6 million of them?

Is that a baseline to let it count?

If you’re going to compare Trump, or anyone else, with Hitler, I’d say so.

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He did help kill ~80% of all Palestinians in Gaza,

How many Gazans are there?

WP says about 2 million.

80% of that is 1.6 million.

I don’t think that Trump or the Israeli leaders combined killed that number.

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Me: “This is an apple.” You: “But that is also an apple.” yes it is mate. Both are apples. What is your point?

IIUC, we’re arguing quantity more than quality.

This is an apple, and this is 10 apples: which would you rather have?

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Maybe ask those in ICE concentration camps if they would like some junk food instead of forced hunger.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think it’s Nayib Bukele intention is to exterminate a population with a disproportionately large number, if not a majority of, gangsters and other criminals. I’m sure he’s content to keep them there for decades, if necessary; though I get the feeling that most will be released in several years or a few decades. (Also, Jews and other concentration camp victims didn’t cause Germany to have a murder rate of about 100:100 000 a year).

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Dude, defending Trump works on Twitter, you’re on the wrong platform here mate. You make no sense with your arguments. The more I read the worse it gets. I’m not going to continue arguing with this nonsense.

I’m no more defending Trump than you’re defending Hitler.

Trump is a bad man, but Hitler was worse; and that, to some here, it seems, is a controversial statement.

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Just because the ratios of deaths are not exactly the same among amount of deaths doesn’t make Trump less evil.

Now what if I re-wrote that:

Just because the ratios of deaths are not exactly the same among amount of deaths doesn’t make Hitler more evil.

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He opened concentration camps,

Where? Do they have gas chambers?

and before you cite the US prison-industrial-complex, that existed long before Trump. Indeed, before that, they had slavery. In fact a few Presidents owned slaves. Jefferson, cited by many in a positive way, owned slaves and probably fucked, i.e. in his case raped, a few of them.

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he endorses crimes against humanity and war crimes including famine, genocide and torture,

a lot of people endorsed it, including Dubya Bush, who seems to be becoming an ally-of-sorts with a few anti-Trumpers.

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he kidnapped a nation’s leader,

a bad leader at that, but Papa Bush got Noriega.

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Hitler wasn’t known to sexually abuse kids.

FWIW,

Sally Hemings: the woman Jefferson kept as a slave, as well, IIUC, a few hundred other people.

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So maybe Trump is worse than Hitler, maybe it’s comparing apples with pears.

I’d say an apple and a pear to 10 apples and 10 pears.