• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Fuck that. They can collectively shout into this asshole. All we gotta do is start a counter movement. Which I guarantee will be easier to grow than Collective Prudes.

    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      Lol what are you people ever going to do.

      You can’t just wait until you’re mad to do something. It takes years building networks and getting everyone on board.

      Totally doable if people had a bit of common sense but the reason why the right are kicking ass and doing this stuff is because people now are pretty brain washed and can’t figure out how most of the stuff that they fight for are also the things they need to stop in order to prevent this stuff. But because they will never figure that out, you’ll never get anywhere.

      Just an example, we should have recognized the same tools that let content creators get paid was going to be the same tools that politicians would use to manipulate and lie to people popularising fascism again. Thanks PewDiePie

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        6 days ago

        Tbh, I didnt know this group exists until this happened. So sometimes an event happens, you get mad, and you do something about it. Thats usually how most people come to action.

  • parpol@programming.dev
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    6 days ago

    Just pointing out the obvious here, but the problem isn’t organizations like Collective Shout. And there has been a rather worrying development of this issue where people seem to focus on these organizations rather than the actual problem.

    Payment processing is a utility. Credit card companies should not be allowed to pick and choose who they allow and who they block. That’s the job of the government. Anything illegal can be blocked, but blocking anything legal such as the delisted games, or the Japanese manga sites that visa and MasterCard killed, should count as discriminatory practice and antitrust violation.

    Japan is on track to force credit card companies to allow all legal transactions indiscriminately, and we need the same thing to happen in the EU and US. Once we have this fixed, organizations will be forced to instead try to outlaw the games, which is a million times harder.

    If we bully organizations like collective shout out of existence, new ones will pop up to take its place, and the cycle repeats, but if we regulate credit card companies, we essentially cure the disease.

    • tarknassus@lemmy.world
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      It’s not the first time this has happened. That first time set the precedent that the payment processors have a vast amount of power over the transactions that can occur on the internet. There wasn’t a realistic way to push back on it and so they will continue to expand this for… whatever reason they are actually giving. IDK - I would have thought that legitimate adult content payments would be quite lucrative for these processors to handle, it’s not like they’re beholden to advertising like YouTube is and their insane content policies.

      I mean, I cannot find a valid reasoning for it apart from the vague term “high risk” which explains nothing. This is the best I’ve found so far:

      The adult industry is no stranger to regulation and stigma. But in recent years, payment processor censorship has emerged as a subtler, more insidious threat. Companies like Mastercard, Visa, and their underlying bank networks often issue sweeping mandates, particularly regarding “high-risk” content. These decisions typically happen behind closed doors, without public accountability or stakeholder input from the communities affected.

      (bold emphasis mine)

      To reduce perceived brand risk or avoid legal ambiguity, even when the content is legal.

      TBH they are making themselves look pretty shitty as a brand by moving sex work and other adult content back to the darker deeper recesses where it becomes less accessible and harder to regulate properly in terms of safety and legality.

  • TallonMetroid@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I mean, getting rid of anything that even acknowledges the existence of queer folk is absolutely on brand for Christofascists.

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    6 days ago

    The problem with leaving it in the hands of corporations… Is that some are run by pieces of shit with very warped ideas

    What they allow might be worse than what they ban

  • Luffy@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    Ahh, yes

    A collective against the objectification of women, which somehow has no Problem with the current system in america, pornography itself, and dosent advocate for anything except banning Video games.