• spirinolas@lemmy.world
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    Saying the IDF are murderers is not antisemitism it’s the truth. Equating the IDF with all Jews is antisemitism. So who’s the antisemite here?

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    It’s great seeing Bob Vylan start to get controversies under their belt. They’ve earned it! If you want tracks to listen to, England’s Ending, Take That, and We Live Here are all bangers

  • RubberDuck@lemmy.worldOP
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    Imagine the Pope, saying that calling for the death of paedophile priests was a call for the death of all Christians.

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      It’s pretty fucking gross that the media is making the folks literally shooting live ammo at refugees as the victim.

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        They do what their boss tells them to do, are fired, or they resign.

        All the respected journalists already resigned.

        “The boss” is a billionaire, because billionaires own all mass media. They dictate what you do and do not see, and what side is given more or less support.

        It has been this way in the past, it got a little better, now it’s completely out of control. If you let billionaire nazis have full control of your press, you’re going to have a completely nazi press.

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    By this logic the rabbi seems to be saying something horribly antisemitic doesn’t he? Because if all Jews are represented by the IDF, and the IDF murders children with Glee, isn’t that saying that all Jews are baby killers? Cuz that’s something I’ve heard antisemitic people say before. Now I guess it includes this rabbi.

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    It wasn’t though, was it. The IDF are not Jews in general; they are multi-ethnic and are the armed forces of a country at war. Would a chant of “death to the Russian Armed Forces” be Russophobic? “Death to the Wehrmacht” for anti-German during World War 2? “Death to Hamas” for Islamophobia?

    Identification of the armed forces of a state with a state is a sign of fascism, and the identification of the state with an ethnic group is a sign of extreme nationalism - though admittedly that is less the case with Israel and Jewish people.

    Chanting “death, death to the IDF” is violent and inappropriate at a music festival. “Fuck the IDF” would’ve been fine though.

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      “death to hamas” is often considered to be Islamophobic here which just shows how irrational and stupid everything about this conflict is.

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    Streisand Effect yet again. Never knew of Bob Vylan before. Funny that all the protestations to his very clear message have only spread it further. Truth will not be silent.

  • Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, the religions are ramping up their hate speech. So what do you do? Let them keep at it until there’s blood in the streets?

    Nope. You arrest the priests inciting religious terror.

    It’s that simple. Stop protecting people inciting religious hatred openly because they’re part of this or that religion.

    Fuck religions are those that support them.