• uniquethrowagay@feddit.org
    20·
    18 days ago

    One side supports Israels crimes and is actively working on establishing a facist America.

    The other side supports Israels crimes and doesn’t do that other stuff. Easy choice.

    • itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world
      16·
      18 days ago

      Obama deported more people than any other president and loudly supported ICE. He supported the Afghanistan war knowing full well it was another Vietnam. He bombed people left and right when he felt like it and propped up dictatorships.

      For people who are marginalized and people who are victimized by either regime, a vote red or blue doesn’t mean shit. Obama started with the children in cages. Think those children gave a shit? Think Palestian children gave a shit when Israeli soldiers held competitions on who can maim and kill the most children using US supplied ammo?

      No.

      Of course not.

      So why the fuck should you. Because it’s White people being affected now? Wake the fuck up already. This shit has been going on for decades and it doesn’t matter who does it.

    • danciestlobster@lemmy.zip
      13·
      18 days ago

      Is it too much to ask for an option that doesn’t support Israels crimes? I mean I know we can’t have nice things in the US but still. Would be nice to not have to pick between two options that looooooove genocide

      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pubEnglish
        8·
        18 days ago

        Is it too much to ask for an option that doesn’t support Israels crimes?

        If people fail to vote, yes. Every time the Republicans are in power, they restrict the right to vote more and more. If you don’t vote, or encourage others not to vote, you support the goals of people who want you to not vote, which is to say fascists and authoritarians.

        • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          6·
          17 days ago

          And when democrats get back into power their ratchet effect prevents anything done by republicans from ever slipping back

            • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldMEnglish
              4·
              17 days ago

              If I don’t vote I’m supporting those who enable the ratchet effect? But if i vote for the people who created and utilize the ratchet effect I’m not supporting it?

              Your mental gymnastics are in overdrive

        • danciestlobster@lemmy.zip
          2·
          18 days ago

          I have tried talking to people about this issue before, and a frequent response I get is “what’s aipac” or complete unawareness or concern for anything going on overseas. Some people just can’t be bothered to tune in to anything related to politics

      • uniquethrowagay@feddit.org
        3·
        18 days ago

        It’s not too much to ask at all. Fight for it as hard as you can. But until you actually have that option in an election, you should vote for the (much) lesser evil.

        • kreskin@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 days ago

          you should vote for the (much) lesser evil.

          No I dont think I will. The dems can earn the progressive vote or they can lose. Thats the deal for them. We’re not playing chicken either, it’s a promise.

            • kreskin@lemmy.world
              1·
              5 days ago

              Dem border control was as brutal as republicans. Tom Homan, the DHS guy appointed by Obama who put together policies to separate kids from their parents at the border got a presidential rank for distinguihsed service, the highest possible civilian honor , specifically for that policy, handed to him by Obama himself. And Harris and Biden both beat their chest about being tough about the border and not letting anyone in. Did you miss that?