I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

  • spacecadet@lemm.ee
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    17 hours ago

    It’s amazing how well he articulated the problem and pointed out potential solutions just for you to give a perfect example of the type of rhetoric he is talking about that drives people away from the left. Like his link, the parody writes itself…

    • iarigby@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      my existence and me wanting to not be oppressed is not “the left”. Men throwing tantrums at not having unchecked control over women in the workplace or not having maids at home is not an “articulated” problem or a solution. I’ve done nothing but give support and love to good men around me who are partners or friends because I hurt for how much harm patriarchy inflicts on them too, and having heard from them how toxic, unjust, and completely devoid of empathy the oppressive environment created by their fellow men is, I have zero tolerance for people advocating to keep subjecting humans to that culture.

      • spacecadet@lemm.ee
        1·
        2 hours ago

        Generally the most welcoming and comforting places are men’s clubs and groups, so much so, that women have fought legal battles to get into male only spaces like fraternities, gyms, clubs, societies, etc… yet there are no men fighting to get into women’s spaces. Really makes you think… the most toxic workplaces I have been involved in were the jobs I had where women dominated the demographic. There was constant bickering, backstabbing, and gossip that me and the men didn’t want to participate in and certainly couldn’t keep up with. It wasn’t until my desk got moved to a factory floor that was heavily male dominated that people cared and looked out for each other more. This may have been because of the safety culture differences of a factory floor vs an office, but it felt deeper than that. Happy hours were actually happy and not filled with angst, no office drama, I could be more open and honest because my male coworkers wouldn’t get “the ick” if I was having a bad day and actually looked out for me, etc… I think women use the “patriarchy” as this nebulous, abstract thing that they can just place all of their failures and shortcomings as a person on so that way they don’t have to face the truth that deep down they are a disgusting person.