I am just a hobbyist and don’t do any tech for work, but I enjoy tinkering. I have a Nextcloud that I like to use to keep files between my phone and a few computers in sync. That does include my media. For my phone I have been liking an app Power Ampache 2 as it lets me stream and save music locally (I don’t have unlimited data so somethings I do want to keep).
Part of the motivation is just because and just to host more things makes me feel more pro. I am a bit curious about what otherset ups people in the community might have settled for and why?
Like others, I run both. Jellyfin for music was alright, but I didn’t love how it handled some metadata and my collection now is around 28,000 songs (without bootlegs) and I wanted something dedicated to music.
Absolutely love Navidrome. When I’m at my PC, I’ll open it, hit the “Random” option under Albums and select something from the first page. This way I’m always surfacing things I would normally ignore and engaging more with my collection.
Then, again as others have mentioned, I have Symfonium on Android. There’s a “Track Mix” option that shuffles your entire library, or you can create dynamic playlists. The one I use gives me 50 random tracks, but filters out classical and tracks shorter than 45 seconds. Same idea though, listening to parts of my collection that would never be my first choice.
When I’m at my PC, I’ll open it, hit the “Random” option under Albums and select something from the first page. This way I’m always surfacing things I would normally ignore and engaging more with my collection.
Random is the only way I listen. BAM! First thing in the morning so music is with me all day. I do have structured playlists, my favorite being my Blues, Jazz, Soul, R&B, Funk playlist. When I purchase music, I usually buy the artist’s entire, official release catalog. Their top ten songs are cool and all, but I find more enjoyment listening to the B sides, and stuff that never made radio play, peppered with their top hits here and there. Those deep cuts to me are gold. I’ve been collecting for many, many decades now from Opera to Death Metal and anything in between. I even ran a fairly successful, licensed, internet radio station back in the late 90’s. To say I was a fan of music would be an understatement. It is my most expensive hobby.
Welcome home
Thank you :)
Can’t help with Jellyfin, tho there are many here who use it, so maybe someone will chime in. I do use Navidrome, and it checks all my boxes. It’s a pretty comprehensive package, and recently they have introduced a plug in environment. I have not got into the plug ins yet. If your music collection is rather haphazard, I’d recommend Beets. Turn it loose on your music collection and let it do it’s thing.
If your music collection is rather haphazard, I’d recommend Beets. Turn it loose on your music collection and let it do it’s thing.
Good to know. I used to have a rather disorganized collection. I like to use Strawberry Music Player on my laptop and it can fetch album covers and metadata.
Navidrome for easy UPnP. Symphonium on Android. Foobar2000 on windows. Deadbeef on Linux.
I have a bunch of WiiM Mini devices and this setup works well for multi room playback.
WiiM Mini
For a moment i thought this was a version of the Nintendo console and was like omg
🤣 I always think of Weeeeeeeeeeen
Navidrome on PC + Symfonium (one time payment, worth it) as my mobile interface so I can listen on my phone easily.
Today I learned that Jellyfin does music. Had Jellyfin and Navidrome both for years, never even tried sticking my music library into Jellyfin. I use Substreamer on my Androids.
checks if I made this comment while drunk
No, not me… Unless my drunk self has an alt I’m not aware of.
Exactly the same situation here on every part of your comment.
Both are fine if they fit the layout of your media collection: Where Jellyfin requires you to have a certain file naming scheme and folder structure (and will cause absolute chaos on the metadata front if you haven’t), Navidrome doesn’t care about either and relies on ID3 tags instead. Also, Navidrome is a lot more light-weight than JF. I like to use it combined with the FOSS Tempus app (the latest in a long line of forks, and currently actively developed).
I’ll second that
Jellyfin can function as a music server, but it’s definitely a video server first. All the other media (music, books, podcasts, etc) are basically still treated like TV shows when it comes to how they need to be rigidly organized.
Navidrome on the other hand, can just take a pile of mp3s and sort everything out based on tags. Navidrome can also handle additional artists, so it can understand that “Eminem feat Elton John” isn’t a single artist. That was ultimately what made me switch from Jellyfin.
You asked for personal setups so I’ll answer with what i have. Jellyfin does my video stuff. TV, movie etc. And for audio I use navidrome. I tried to use jelly for all of it but the music playback sucked (for me). Navidrome is subsonic api compatiable and gives you more options for clients therefore. I even wrote my own tui player :)
If I were you I’d set up jellyfin (not exposed to the internet) and see how it goes. If the music work then awesome, you have a one stop shop for all your media. If not, then add navi on top.
Have fun :)
Navidrome is subsonic api compatiable and gives you more options for clients therefore. I even wrote my own tui player :)
Any that you like in particular?
For desktop I like feishin,for android dsub2000.
Literally watched the YouTube video from click and switch that goes over replacing Spotify with this. Getting my server ready!
Same
Dude, there are multiple replies for Symfonium. $5, and 100% worth every penny.
Requiring Google Play and Google account to download and is proprietary, I’ll pass.
They are starting to support F-Droid
I was using just jellyfin for a while but navidrome got around some issues I was having, or rather the primary user of the music library was having with various things being wrong such as duplicate artists, incorrect album art, albums split into duplicates with opposite missing tracks. Once things went wrong in jellyfin it was a pain to figure out what the cause and fix were. Navidrome seems to base everything off the embedded tags and using lidarr to rewrite the tags, and for some albums rename the files, made everything show up correctly, then a delete missing files in navidrome cleans up the evidence and everyone is happy. The playlists are stored on the server too so if you don’t like a particular client app you don’t have to remake them if you try another, or just having them persist between mobile and desktop.
I haven’t tried navidrome, but my only gripe with jellyfin for music is that I can’t find any non-subscription apps that work with android auto (if someone wants to point at one, let me know!)
I know jellyfin itself at least used to have android auto compatibility, but it was absolute shit and didn’t have even some of the basic music controls when I tried, and I am unsure if any version of the app still has that even.
use finamp. it works fantastic!
I am, it doesn’t have android auto.
i literally just got out of my car where i was playing music using finamp in amdroid auto. IIRC there is a major rewrite going on but the builds are stable. look in the repo for instructions to use the rewrite and not the basic play store version
Pretty sure I am on the fdroid version, but that is fantastic news.
I should probably actually look at utilising obtanium for apps like finamp.
Have you checked out Symfonium? Love that for music streamed from Jellyfin, and it has Android Auto listed in the settings, although I haven’t used that yet.
Yes, it is good, but i will not spend money on the play store.
I understand the Big Tech revulsion, I’m a hardcore, privacy-first self-hoster 10 years deep, but the app was like 5 bucks one time and it’s been my daily driver for about 3 years now. It tops every other android *sonic app. It has multiple backend sources so if you change your media server down the line, Symfonium will connect to it. TOTALLY WORTH THE MONEY!
I honestly dont listen to music enough for it to be worth it to me, but it definitely looked clean and worked well when I tried it.
I just wish it wasnt the only worthwhile option.
Musicolet?
Since when could you link jellyfin to it?
