Pay securely with an Android smartphone, completely without Google services: This is the plan being developed by the newly founded industry consortium led by the German Volla Systeme GmbH. It is an open-source alternative to Google Play Integrity. This proprietary interface decides on Android smartphones with Google Play services whether banking, government, or wallet apps are allowed to run on a smartphone.

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    Furthermore, a peer review process is planned, through which the consortium members will mutually check and certify their operating systems and smartphone or tablet models. “This is intended to create transparency and replace trust with traceability.”

    Still doesn’t sound very open.

    I should be able to tell my bank to only trust devices running an OS signed by the grapheneos key, and more importantly I should be able to tell them to trust an OS signed by my key.

    Edit: I don’t mean to shit on this too hard. It might be the best next step.

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      It is kinda insane though that we’ve had public/private keys since the internet started walking and somehow we end up with all these over-complicated or pointless ways to use them.

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        Decentralized systems are more difficult to understand, and also inconvenient.

        Also, very hard to monetize.

        Therefore, capitalism converts the issue into walled garden approach. Easy for rubes to use, nobody bats an eye.

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      I don’t get why it has to be that complicated anyway. I should be able to just give them my key, why does a OS or device vendor need to be a part of it? When I get a card I need to verify my identity somehow, times past that was me going to the bank, signing a form and showing my ID card. Fucking Tim Apple or Satya McGoogle didn’t have a role in that, why should they now?

      Sidenote; I know Satya Slopella is Microsoft but I don’t frankly care to learn what the pedo in charge of Google is called.

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        When I get a card I need to verify my identity somehow, times past that was me going to the bank, signing a form and showing my ID card. Fucking Tim Apple or Satya McGoogle didn’t have a role in that, why should they now?

        The government did though in supplying said ID, so there was a centralised trustable organisation that the bank could depend on for verification.

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          Exactly. After that, the bank should accept that I wish to pay with my own device without Google, Apple, or Samsung having a say.

          They don’t need GAS approval for me to pay my bills on my computer. Nor to make online purchases on it. Why is it suddenly required on my phone? It’s idiotic.

          If I say that my device is okay, that’s all that should be required.

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        I don’t frankly care to learn what the pedo in charge of Google is called.

        Blunder Pinochet. Or is it Sundial Pinoy. Or Thundercat Pyjamas.