• GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldOPM
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      Looks like you drank the entire bucket of us propaganda. Liberals that see Russia everywhere is to distract you from the failures of their political party. The politicians that screamed Russia the loudest are the ones that had taken the largest amounts of money from AIPAC. Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections.

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        Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections.

        I think something the Epstein files are showing us is that they’re the same threat.

        Fascists globally, are the threat, regardless of the government they’ve commandeered.

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        Accusing others of falling for propaganda while denying that trump is a russian assett is very funny.

        That’s like denying that israel is committing genocide while israelis very openly call for genocide.

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          denying that trump is a russian assett

          Pro Russia is pro multipolar world is pro China.

          How could Russia trick American billionaires into supporting a candidate that undermines their global ambitions?

          The US billionaires can push for an impeachment at any time. Trump must be their candidate.

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            How could Russia trick American billionaires into supporting a candidate that undermines their global ambitions?

            Simple, by propaganda. Or did you think billionaires were immune? I’d say they are even more vulnerable because they surround themselves with yes men that agree with anything they say. Sprinkle that with a ton of blackmail and you got yourself a russian asset.

            May even use their greed for profit against them, whether it is from the war industry, exotic metals, or plain old deals. They will get their share and destroy democracy if it is in the way.

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              Maybe a dozen fall for his charm but his gaudy style can’t convince the billionaires like it convinces the masses.

              American workers can’t unionize at Starbucks. That’s one billionaire. Putin can’t have managed to outwit all 1,000 billionaires.

              Nothing that Putin can offer can compensate American billionaires for losing hegemonial power.

              American billionaires destroy democracy. But it is for them, not Putin.

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          like denying that israel is committing genocide while israelis very openly call for genocide.

          You mean like what Democrats have done the last few years?

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            Yes. That’s what i meant. I thought that was pretty clear.

            Your denial that trump is a russian asset is a willful denial of reality on par with americans who deny that israel’s genocide is a genocide.

            • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldOPM
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              Trump is a capitalist asset chosen by the same donor class that chose Biden and every president before them.

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        Inside the US, there’s a pretty substantial amount of pro-Russia propaganda. For years the NRA was a dominant force in politics and it was completely compromised by Russia. The current US president is a Russian asset. Etc etc.

        Israel is by far the larger threat to us elections

        I’m not sure about “by far”, but it doesn’t really matter. Two things can be true at the same time. Israel and Russia are both significant threats to the US, both have obtained substantial control over US politicians, and both are threats to their neighbors.

        And also there’s overlap because Israel and Russia are partially aligned. (See for example how reluctant Israel has been to offer any support to Ukraine.)

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        Nobody said which threat was larger. But it is absolutely stupid to have such a one-track mind when it comes to danger. Have a little nuance.

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      Americans continue to be categorically unable to admit fault for anything without blaming it on evil foreigners.