• wheezy@lemmy.ml
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    18 天前

    Can you explain to me the logic of using voting as a tactic at this point? I’m very confused by the “I’ll vote no matter what” that runs counter to the fact that we literally will have a fascist military force that will be involved in the voting process.

    Do you think we live in a world that has SS troops door knocking BUT we also will somehow have a fair election as long as we are “brave enough”? Like, I’m genuinely asking. Do you think we can vote fascist out of power?

    They’ll guard the polls. They’ll redistrict maps. They’ll murder people in the street and say it was “self defense”. They’ll kidnap children. But, if we just vote them out they’ll go “aw shucks, I guess we gotta pack it up”.

    I genuinely want to know if people think we’re still at a point that we can just turn this around with voting. Am I out of touch? Like, I’m not trying to be a Doomer. There are other ways to fight them. I’m not saying to not vote if you’re safe to do so. But if you’re gonna dodge bullets to go vote. I really want to know if you really think that that will actually make fascist give up their power.

    They spent over a month not swearing in an elected official to stop a vote on the Epstein files. What do you think they’ll do if they lose too many seats? Genuinely. Am I crazy? Or am I actually paying attention?

    • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
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      18 天前

      Multiple fronts required. No one action will be the solution.

      • Vote to establish legitimacy.
      • Protest to register dissent.
      • Civic pressure to demonstrate conviction and organization.
      • Fringe ‘performative’ resistance to sow sone unrest and uncertainty and maybe inspire.
      • Some violence for fear, mostly aimed at inanimates.
      • In the street security details, like minneapolis.

      And most importantly, daily microresistance and malicious compliance, sabotage, redirection, and education.

      • wheezy@lemmy.ml
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        18 天前

        Agree completely. I am just shocked at the amount of people that stop after your first bullet point.

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          18 天前

          the overwhelming majority of the country lives paycheck to paycheck or is otherwise one accident away from destitution

          keeping people just on that edge of survival but not literally starving acts as great tool for keeping the poors inline, has been the US’s bread and butter for many decades now

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      18 天前

      But, if we just vote them out they’ll go “aw shucks, I guess we gotta pack it up”.

      I know Jan 6 happened, but they fucked off after losing the election in 2029 when the found no means of weaseling their way to hold onto power. Voting was a means to that end. Not the sole solution but absolutely a tool to be leveraged, imo.