• AfterNova@lemmy.worldOP
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    28 days ago

    If humans are hardwired to create hierarchies and seek status would a complete lack of hierarchy be possible on a large scale?

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      29 days ago

      Some heirarchies (my personal opinion now) are both natural and desirable: parent and child, teacher and student.

      Many are harmful, and should be removed, no matter how “natural”.

      I wouldn’t say “hardwired to create heirarchies” so much as there’s a tendency, in any case.

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          29 days ago

          It won’t be fun. It will be work. I was saying that from the beginning. It’s a task without end, but still worthwhile.

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      29 days ago

      This is surely how they argued in the Middle Ages when it came to justifying the different estates.

      I don’t believe that hierarchies are something inherently human. You don’t seek out hierarchies in your normal environment. Very few people do. And those who do are usually not very popular. You don’t want to subordinate yourself or dominate others. We are all only human, after all. It’s just that we live in a society that is hierarchical, and therefore it seems normal to us. In fact, however, this order can and is only maintained through violence. That cannot be natural.

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          28 days ago

          Someone who is extremely intelligent and educated gains a lot of social status. But that has nothing to do with hierarchies. At least not necessarily. For example, I don’t think anyone feels subordinate to Eminem just because he has a lot of social status.

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          I wouldn’t argue that social status = hierarchy. What is social status? Respect, mainly. Dignity. Everyone wants those things, but they can be given to everyone. When someone wants more than that, hey are a problem, not the natural order taking over.