• ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    24 days ago

    All the people justifying carrying a knife everywhere: context, and also the kind of knife. I remember once being in the labor and delivery ward of a hospital and a guy visiting pulled out his wallet to sign in. He must’ve been one of those every day carry chumps because like 8 things fell out of his pocket, including a pocket knife that was at like 8” long.

    What fucking threat are you gonna have to neutralize at the maternity ward you fucking nerd? Or do you think they’re gonna let you cut the cord with that dirty ass flea market knife that’s probably blunt as shit. All you’ve achieved is making everyone around you uncomfortable because america is loaded with incidents of mass violence.

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      24 days ago

      What fucking threat are you gonna have to neutralize at the maternity ward you fucking nerd?

      The mere assumption that knives are weapons by default seems pretty foreign to me. Sometimes the “fucking threat” that needs “neutralizing” is a tag on a stuffed animal or a plastic clamshell container that can’t easily be opened without tools.

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      24 days ago

      I work in a hospital, on the way to work and on the way back I often stop by picking mushrooms. The situation you described is not unlike my ordinary life.

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      24 days ago

      lol one of the things we have to do in psychiatry is go through every patient’s belongings on admission.

      We’ve seen all kinds of things from drug paraphernalia to weapons to dildos (and one dude just had the whole lower half of a sex doll) but in this context the thing that takes the cake was the patient hallucinating so bad they were talking to the demons more than us and it turned out there was a loaded gun in the bag they’d had at their bedside for 8 hours in the ED. The honorable mention is the lighter that looked like a gun that I put in a little plastic baggie with a note covering it that said ‘THIS IS A LIGHTER’ so that no one would panic when they first saw it.

      Honestly I don’t even care all that much we really do live in an area where you might just want to have something on you even if it’s just a nice hefty flashlight. I’m probably not going to win a fight, but I’ve always said I’ll at least take a testicle with me and leaving behind some tetanus doesn’t sound too bad either.

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      24 days ago

      Wouldn’t it be wild if he was somewhere before he got to the maternity ward? Maybe he should just leave the knife in the car, so that it’s available for anybody if they want to steal it.

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            17 days ago

            No, door locks and systems wherein agitation leads to alarms. Additionally hospitals frequently (but tbf not always) having parking that is monitored by security.

            If it’s not abundantly clear I’m saying you’re being paranoid, much like any person who feels the need to carry a weapon 24/7. How often does your car get broken into at all? Let alone in the parking lot of a hospital? I’m sure it does happen but does that mean it’s likely? No

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              17 days ago

              Let’s go back a bit. I honestly don’t understand what business it is of yours what people carry around in their pockets. Is it an inconvenience to you if a guy is carrying a knife around? Please explain how this is an issue, ever. Do we have a problem with mass stabbings?

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                17 days ago

                10% of homicides are via stabbing, the second highest cause after gun (the undisputed king at 80%). I am not proposing a “ban” on carrying knives though (clearly at no point did I ever say such a thing?), I am just questioning the need to carry one in every single context.

                I’ve found that when I do this, very similar to gun people, knife people get absurdly defensive. Like you are here. “How dare you suggest my weapon not be on me at all times! It has a legitimate purpose, you see”. No one is saying that’s not true, it’s the same thing as the gun arguments, these are just deflections from the point of “do you need to carry a weapon 24/7”.

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                  17 days ago

                  “do you need to carry a weapon 24/7”.

                  Most knives aren’t weapons, and you need them when you need them. There’s not always predictability on when that’s going to be.

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                    16 days ago

                    Well listen, you go ahead and carry a knife into the labor and delivery ward then as is your god given right in America. I apologize for questioning the idea of not having one on you at all times. I’m sure when you are visiting a newborn child a sudden attacker or possibly a random clamshell case could get you out of nowhere, and it would clearly be the worst thing in the world to not be able to deal with that in every single context that ever exists