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Didn’t they US used to send special forces out to rescue people like that in the past?
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If we can’t get this prisoner back then you and me are next.
If they are going to illegally kidnap you and bring you to El Salvador then it’s probably best to try to kill them and then escape to Canada.
Literally zero victims sent to El Salvador received a trial or due process of any kind. None of them. They were identified by ICE and summarily deported. This one guy is a test case because it was proven to be a mistake, but dozens of others don’t even have enough of a paper trail to examine. 90% had no criminal record. Even if he is returned, the administration has proven that they are willing and capable of eliminating anyone.
Are they in prison in Venezuela? Or could they just come right back?
No, that’s… it’s like the whole story. He’s in a concentration camp in El Salvador for no legal reason. None of them can leave because it’s a prison, and they may be dead. They can’t come back from Venezuela because that’s not where they were taken after being abducted.
They’ve definitely extracted Americans held in other countries before (I just rewatched Argo last night), but that order has to come from the president. And he’s the one that wanted people deported in the first place.
Dude is a citizen of El Salvador, though. That makes it more complicated. Going in and extracting him could easily be treated as an act of war.
Trump’s only real tool would be to negotiate his return, either by offering them something, or threatening them.
Unless going to war is the plan, which I find unlikely.
doesn’t matter.he needs to capitulate to them to get the guy back.
it was his departments fuck up after all, as so ordered by the highest court in the land. it’s his job to do whatever it takes to get the man back. we certainly have leverage; I think it’s just trump doesn’t want to and is using this to conviently ignore a court order. That’s why he said ‘hes helping us out’. shipping them to another country helps him do fascist things and shove off the blame. It’s like if the Nazis held their camps in Ethiopia or some shit idk
anyone who isnt outraged over this is imo… in for a nasty surprise. this will keep ramping up, innocent people will keep getting sent to El Salvador and when not even the supreme Court can stop it
what’s the point of any of this? what are we doing here? seriously I cannot believe how ignorant, short sided, and hateful my fellow Americans are becoming. this is the end of the American experiment, it’s that simple. We’ve failed every test.
every founding founder would be rolling over in their graves, but if they could e tasted a fraction of the immense wealth and power our current oligarchs hold. I’m sure they’d do the same thing
Thing is if they really followed the constitution and the federalist papers, there should have been an overthrow of the government and a rewrite of the constitution every 15 years or so.
They knew stagnant government and a population who got to complacent would be a bad bad thing.
And here we are.
You do know that the Orange Turd is telling this guy to say that.
I think more likely the guy is already dead and no one wants to admit that
Obviously because Trump told him to say this. They’re trying to baffle us with bullshit.
The guy is a fucking dictator. Dictators can do whatever the hell they want. In the lead up to the Iraq war, Saddam was accused of locking tons of innocent people up. In an attempt to placate this, he ordered all prisoners to be released. All Iraqi prisons were empty and prisoners were set free. Even the ones that abso-fucking-lutely did things that are criminal in any society (ex: murder and armed robbery), it didn’t help his international reputation in the slightest.
That fucker could release all of the prisoners sent to him on a whim.
I wish death to all monarchs and dictators. They deserve nothing else.
Demand that the daily budget + 10% for ICE is withheld every day until those prisoners are returned. None of those bootlicking thugs should get paid until these people are returned.
Take the money confiscated, and distribute it evenly amongst the victims families.
