• Hegar@fedia.io
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    18 days ago

    Like ~15 years ago I heard peter singer saying that the emissions from the lifetime use of a car were lower than those from making it, so you should only ever buy a second hand car.

    That was before widespread EVs though.

    I often wonder how long you have to use a 2nd hand gas car for, before the emissions outstrip those of making a brand new EV.

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      18 days ago

      I got a 2019 used nissan leaf in 2020 (the lessee didn’t like it), but it looked new. My coworkers tripped over themselves to tell me that the production of a vehicle is worse for the planet anyway. Then, when I explained that it was used, they all responded that the electricity was probably dirty anyway. I charged it at the company garage or at my town’s public spots, both of which were solar powered.

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        17 days ago

        You always get FUD about EVs from people who don’t like the idea that they might be responsible for unnecessarily harming the planet and their neighbours through their actions and would far rather believe that you’re just as bad as them. It’s BoTh sIdES but for polluters.

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      18 days ago

      My old petrol car consumes 4.5L/100km. New Hybrid EVs consume 4.5L/100km because it takes a lot to move the heavy hybrid system.

      Solution: I use public transport a lot unless I can’t. That’s my hybrid mode of transport.

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        18 days ago

        Public transport is always king but you are also supposed to plug in the hybrid vehicle.

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          18 days ago

          Also they’re blatantly not comparing like for like.

          For example, the Toyota Yaris has a petrol-only version that get 4.6 to 5.8L/100km, whereas the (non-plugin) hybrid version of the exact same car gets 3.8L/100km, so all this guff about “it takes a lot to move the heavy hybrid system” is clearly FUD.