This is implying that LLM usage by students is all bad (either because of cheating or because or because of kids getting bad information from LLMs). If I were a student, I’d absolutely be using LLMs to help me organize notes, summarize things, quiz me on material, and get general overiews of certain topics/explanations of problems, etc. I’d also not assume everything it spit out was correct.
LLMs have a LOT of problems and pose potential pitfalls for students, but they are a tool. They can be used in different ways and those ways are not all bad.
Also school gets out on different dates in different places.
You just ignored what OP said, they highlighted all the good uses llms can help students with such as test quizzes, note organizing, transcribing, etc, you ignored their comment and made an unrelated response to the content of the comment equating llm use to cheating on exams.
I didn’t ignore what they said at all. Organizing your own notes and creating summaries of topics (most grade school essays are just this) is an important part of learning and fully understanding something. Having an LLM do it defeats the purpose, same as taking an answer sheet into a test.
Exactly. Imagine you’re taking a class. Imagine your note taking process is:
Record an audio copy of the lecture.
Feed the audio into an LLM to transcribe it.
Have the LLM condense the transcription into notes.
What good have you actually accomplished? The point of studying is not to produce a derivative work of a professor’s lecture. The point is to actually learn something. And this is best done by working through the material, on your own, using your own mind and faculties. It is the act of actually doing the transformation that builds the rich conceptual networks that result in effective learning.
That is ignoring the vast majority of usage. Read about what professors, teachers, etc. are saying about its use and you will not hear it being used as tool as the major use. Everyone claims they are using it as a tool, but most people are using them to outsource thinking, unfortunately. Which is highly problematic when the outputs of LLMs are highly wrong much of the time. You need to use the same skills to evaluate the output that people are outsourcing away. Tools like calculators at least do their tasks correctly as long as your inputs are correct. The same is not true of LLMs. Moreover, people are blindly trusting the LLMs to a point where they are completely stuck whenever the LLM can’t do something or are wrong
Tools like calculators do not take away your ability to think logically, just to do route computation. Research is still emerging, but suggests long term negative effects on cognitive abilities from high LLM use
Also: Regardless of if this graph is caused by schools getting out or not, it’s still very highly used in schools.
LLM are powerful when used for what they are - predictive text. While I dont trust them completely you can usually catch most hallucinations of a bit cautious. Just like I don’t trust a blog post blindly.
Have trouble understanding some topic / technology? I’ll ask two of them to explain. Or copy one answer into the next and have it verify.
Uh I’m a student and the only real thing most people do with LLMs is make it do their work for them. At least the good students will use it to avoid doing busywork. I used it in my physics college class to do my homework because the class was easy, and I got an A on the final exam.
This is implying that LLM usage by students is all bad (either because of cheating or because or because of kids getting bad information from LLMs). If I were a student, I’d absolutely be using LLMs to help me organize notes, summarize things, quiz me on material, and get general overiews of certain topics/explanations of problems, etc. I’d also not assume everything it spit out was correct.
LLMs have a LOT of problems and pose potential pitfalls for students, but they are a tool. They can be used in different ways and those ways are not all bad.
Also school gets out on different dates in different places.
An index card full of test answers is also a tool, but you’ll find most examination centers don’t allow them.
You just ignored what OP said, they highlighted all the good uses llms can help students with such as test quizzes, note organizing, transcribing, etc, you ignored their comment and made an unrelated response to the content of the comment equating llm use to cheating on exams.
I didn’t ignore what they said at all. Organizing your own notes and creating summaries of topics (most grade school essays are just this) is an important part of learning and fully understanding something. Having an LLM do it defeats the purpose, same as taking an answer sheet into a test.
Exactly. Imagine you’re taking a class. Imagine your note taking process is:
What good have you actually accomplished? The point of studying is not to produce a derivative work of a professor’s lecture. The point is to actually learn something. And this is best done by working through the material, on your own, using your own mind and faculties. It is the act of actually doing the transformation that builds the rich conceptual networks that result in effective learning.
It’s almost like math teachers requiring work to be shown has a logical reason behind it!
Wait, what? Using your brain is the entire point of most tests and quizzes.
Outsourcing them to LLMs sounds like brainrot manifesting.
That is ignoring the vast majority of usage. Read about what professors, teachers, etc. are saying about its use and you will not hear it being used as tool as the major use. Everyone claims they are using it as a tool, but most people are using them to outsource thinking, unfortunately. Which is highly problematic when the outputs of LLMs are highly wrong much of the time. You need to use the same skills to evaluate the output that people are outsourcing away. Tools like calculators at least do their tasks correctly as long as your inputs are correct. The same is not true of LLMs. Moreover, people are blindly trusting the LLMs to a point where they are completely stuck whenever the LLM can’t do something or are wrong
Tools like calculators do not take away your ability to think logically, just to do route computation. Research is still emerging, but suggests long term negative effects on cognitive abilities from high LLM use
Also: Regardless of if this graph is caused by schools getting out or not, it’s still very highly used in schools.
LLM are powerful when used for what they are - predictive text. While I dont trust them completely you can usually catch most hallucinations of a bit cautious. Just like I don’t trust a blog post blindly.
Have trouble understanding some topic / technology? I’ll ask two of them to explain. Or copy one answer into the next and have it verify.
Uh I’m a student and the only real thing most people do with LLMs is make it do their work for them. At least the good students will use it to avoid doing busywork. I used it in my physics college class to do my homework because the class was easy, and I got an A on the final exam.
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