• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Human rights are officially a thing of the past. None of us qualify for citizenship if he removes that definition.

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      2 months ago

      Birthright citizenship is not a human right. It’s pretty much only a thing in North and South America.

      You can say a lot of things. But proclaiming it as a loss of human rights is not it.

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        2 months ago

        You’re arguing that people don’t have the right to live where they were born and have lived their entire lives.
        If that’s not a human right, than basically nothing is.

        Also, “only” north and south america? That’s not a trivial portion of the world that you can just “only” away.

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          2 months ago

          I’m not arguing anything. I’m informing you of what the reality is.

          33 countries have it. All but two are in Americas.

          The rest have citizenship inherited from your parents. Meaning. Even if I was born in Portugal. It wouldn’t make me a Portugeese citizen. I would still be a Swedish citizen. Since my parents are.

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            2 months ago

            “I’m not arguing anything” they say, arguing that it’s not a human right.

            Get the fuck out of here with your double think.
            Portugal and Sweden not respecting a human right doesn’t make it not a human right. Given how gleefully so much of Europe seems to be to deny people who have lived in the country for generations citizenship, to restrict their freedom or religion, or to just watch them fucking drown, I’m not super keen for the US to use Europe as a role model for human rights regarding citizenship.

            Again, if taking someone from the only home they’ve ever known to live someplace they’ve never been, don’t speak the language, and have no citizenship isn’t a human rights violation, then nothing that matters is.
            I don’t give a shit if Sweden says it’s fine.