Summary

Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.

Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.

Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.

Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.

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    The simple fact is that on the Monday after DST starts, more people have heart attacks and strokes.

    Meaning that not going away from it means people will continue to die from it.

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    4 days ago

    They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?

    I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.

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      4 days ago

      More daylight in summer rocks. It would be equally rocking in Winter. The clocks shoud stay forward.

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    Mid-day should be the middle of the day. Mid-night should be the middle of the night.

    If you like more light in the evening morning go to bed late and wake up late. If you like light in the morning evening, go to bed early and wake up early.

    Stop fucking with the clocks and making nonsensible decisions

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      Yes, but the EU is split into four time zones now and if you implement this technically there would be many more:

      8 if we’d have 30-min time-zones 16 if we’d have 15-min time-zones 24 if we’d have 10-min time-zones 48 if we’d have 5-min time-zones 240 if we’d have 1-min time-zones

      I’m not saying we should keep dst, but we can’t have everyone have midday at 12:00 and midnight at 00:00.

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        You can keep 1 hour time zones just fine. It still puts noon within 1 hour of mid day, which you don’t get with DST.

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      If you like more light in the evening, go to bed late and wake up late.

      What about people who are in school or employed?

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      We need a standard system for tracking time. If every city decides their own time based on the sun it will be chaos.

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          I’ve had way too many conversations with people that simply can’t comprehend how that works. “But then we’d have to do everything so much earlier, it would be dark all the time.” I try to explain that we’d still do everything at the same time of day, just call it something different, but they just can’t wrap their minds around that.

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          China has one time zone, but in Xinjiang they use local time anyway. Getting everyone on one time zone for daily use is unlikely.

    • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
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      While we’re at it, cancel the time zones. I have no fucking clue why we’re still pretending everyone wakes up at the same time of the day all over the world. All it does is mess up scheduling for when you actually want to talk to people on the other side of the world.

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        How would we decide to handle the date with no time zones? Half the world would have a date switch during the daytime. Not necessarily impossible to navigate but it would be confusing for a while.

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          That is up to the people to decide. Have the date switch at 00:00 whenever that is, or switch it at whatever time is the middle of the night - I just want to be able to see the time written out and be able to tell how many hours from now that’s happening without googling what flavor of time fuckery any specific time zone abbreviation means. I don’t think changing dates is going to be more confusing than some countries having 15 minutes ahead of GMT time zones or screwing up everyone’s circadian rhythms twice a year.

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    I would have never known if it wasn’t because a coworker told me or because of articles like these. My cat wakes me up at 7- 7:30 and he did that this morning too, so I was very surprised that I slept only 7 hours instead of 8 (before I knew). But the funnits part is that my cat followed DST haha

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    I have a taxi company. On one night, one of my drivers did two jobs, one dispatched at 00:15, the other at 00:45, and he clocked off at 02:15. How long was he working for?

    A) 1 hour

    B) 2 hours

    C) 3 hours

    D) 2 hours 30 minutes

    E) any of the above

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      American here, trick question, it’s E. Irrelevant, the driver is only paid through tips and the employer doesn’t pay payroll taxes, so his working hours are of no consequence.

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      When I worked an hourly job on the night shift, we would all clock out to change the time and then clock back in.

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      The only time I’m reminded that DST is a thing in most of the world, is when people are complaining about it online after it already switched over.

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    Wasn’t DST invented in America? How did it even get adopted by the EU?

    I’m also seeing that it was formerly used in Russia, India, South America, and some parts of Africa, and it is still used in 4/5ths of Canada and 1/3 of Australia.

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      New Zealand entomologist George Hudson first proposed modern DST.

      Easy to google, bud. Also, the concept is ancient.

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        That guy was in 1895, which is a hundred years after Ben Franklin suggested it, but neither of them were responsible because it wasn’t adopted until the early 20th century in Canada, Germany, Austria, and the USA roughly in that order.

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          Well thanks. TIL.

          Having said that, “mentioning” is not inventing.

          It would be cool if we had fat burning pizza. There you have it. I mentioned it first, so I invented it.

          • misteloct@lemmy.world
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            Not your fault that the Internet is full of casual misinformation. None of us are immune from that.

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    I’ve heard a few complaints today from people irl about having to change their clocks. Not about the time change itself, but having to change the time on clocks. It took me two minutes lol.

    • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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      I have not changed the clock for like 10 years or more. All my clocks are synchronized and the oven/microwave clock will permanently be a 00:00, I don’t have time set it every time lights go out…