Realistically, people won’t be ready until the bootheel of the oppressor is on all of their throats. It has to reach the point where people would rather sacrifice their lives than live under the suffering.

The American revolution was enabled by the Puritan mindset. People believed if they sacrificed themselves for the noble cause, they would meet their maker in an eternal paradise. That allowed the threshold for violent overthrow to be much lower.

Plus it was motivated by economic freedom and desire for the dollar. The revolutionaries were motivated by mercantilist objectives, aka, the power of greed and the almighty dollar. We know the desire for wealth easily inspires violence.

Socialism is a moral movement. The entry point is a lot higher.

Science has secularized society, so most down with our cause know, you just get this one unique life and when you’re dead, you’re dead forever. That makes people a lot more hesitant.

I have a hard time believing the capitalist class is going to allow socialism without the threat of violence.

Sadly many will have to witness their family members, friends and neighbors thrown in prison, abused and killed for opposing the Epstein class’ regime, before their rage overcomes their fear. There’s already more than one enraged person out there, but their numbers are not yet big enough to be a genuine threat. When enough people cross the threshold, they will finally organize.

I think for the sake of one’s mental health, it’s more optimistic to look at material conditions and realize fascism at this juncture is unavoidable. The material conditions right now are not conducive to change. They’ve already seized the levers of power, and the decayed mechanisms of liberal capitalist democracy likely can’t stop it, only slow it down. If you can formulate a plan to emigrate, it’s best to do it now. I think this would be the wisest course of action.

Places like Uruguay are happily encouraging asylum and immigration. Entry level tech jobs there require no degree, and they have the least corruption and highest level of queer acceptance in the Americas.

Accepting this allows one to released the agonizing false hope narrative that we’ll be saved by the electorialism.

In fact you would be helping the cause, by contributing to massive brain drain that leads to the collapse of the wealth pyramid. Dumb, incompetent people can’t effectively run a nation without it eventually falling apart.

By any means possible, try to leave and let the MAGA red hats rot in their dystopian capitalist hell.

If you can’t do that? Than be prepared to fight, because it’s gonna get worse. My 46-year-old aging ass will probably pull a muscle doing barrel rolls with an AK-47 during guerilla combat. My record on first-person shooters suggests I’m not an effective military combatant and would likely be dead within 10 seconds.

They’re just adding legitimacy to the socialist cause.

On a serious note, from a liberal perspective, it’s sad this has become normalized.

From a socialist perspective: Yay, accelerationism!

Our plan revolves around preserving a private insurance system that profits from something that should be a basic human right. Why, you ask?

“The only reason why we would be at polling places is if there is a threat to that polling place or we’re serving a warrant on someone that we have been actively tracking down,” Mullin said. “ICE’s job is immigration, customs enforcement. That’s their job … if we’re serving a warrant we will be where we need to be.”

Yeah I’m sure you’ll make something up to justify it, like a sudden wave of undocumented people on an ICE hit list decide to invade our polling places across the country, who are trying to cheat the poor, old GOP out a win.

I don’t even know why they’re going to all this trouble. Some pretty solid polls are indicating Dems aren’t going to take much ground at all. The GOP already ensured that when they gerrymandered the red and battleground states into MAGA hell.

I’ve just resorted to using the umbrella term “queer” as in “queer folk,” probably because I’m too lazy to type out LGBTQ+ every time. Don’t know if that’s seen as negative or correct, but that’s where I’m at.

Whenever a news rag has to announce they’re “fair and unbiased,” I know that’s just code language for right-wing propaganda.

Just trading one form of oppression for another. Most of the police force support Trump anyway. They’ll just quit the police force and join ICE or the NG. At best, they stand idly by and let ICE do whatever they want. Then they won’t have to answer to their local jurisdictions anymore.

In the most ideal conditions, Dems would take a slight majority in the house and a near even split in the Senate. It’ll likely be be a bunch of performative screaming and stalling tactics, without being able to really defy Trump’s agenda. In fact, the corpocrats may cave to the GOP and break rank, thus furthering Trumps agenda.

This could just further alienate the Dem voting base and in 2028 split the vote (or just causing people to sit out), handing another victory to fascism.

TORCHED! TORCHED I SAY!

Or left to die from an infection in his cell. Or deported to El Salvador, where he would be executed.

You’re right. Ignore all of this nonsense and let him fade into obscurity. His former followers will trash him, because he dared criticize ICE, and thus, dared to criticize The Leader.

He gave them permission to be openly racist, sexist, queerphobic, and xenophobic.

He basically said it’s okay to abuse others based on your own ignorance and economic frustrations. Latent, indirect hatred has persisted in this country for a long time. This country never fully went through restoration after the Civil War. This kind of nonsense should’ve have been totally wiped out. These douchebags capitalized on that cultural legacy.

These alt-right provocateurs never really cared about anything at all, other than earning rage clicks for cash. The people who were victimized by their rhetoric weren’t even a consideration.

If anything, counterrevolution, because there’s a lot of brainwashed people there that like to stay stuck in their religious delusions/cults and are anti-progress. Their “religious freedom” involves suppressing others who don’t agree with the cult of their Semitic sky wizard.

They absolutely can afford it and will still be grotesquely wealthy. The ultimate goal is the eliminate class distinctions all together, but that might not happen instantly.

“They’re trying to force us all into brutal gulags, suppress dissent, torture us and kill millions of people!”

— Says the people who support forced prison labor, solitary confinement, waterboarding, suppress dissent and the ongoing death of millions through economic imperialism.

Inventing new, clever ways to grift people!

Since 2011, more than $1 trillion has left developing countries annually in illicit financial outflows. A 2016 study found that $12 trillion had been siphoned out of developing economies.[15]

In a 2011 forensic study of grand corruption cases, the World Bank found the United States was the leading victim of illegal incorporation of entities involved in money laundering schemes.[24] The Department of the Treasury estimates that $300 billion is laundered annually in the United States in violation of US law.[25]

This kleptocratic financial system flourishes in the United States by illegally abusing the United States’ liberal economic structure for two reasons.

1. First, the United States does not have a beneficial ownership registry, and kleptocrats take advantage of this privacy benefit.[26]
2. Second, kleptocrats take advantage of incorporation agents, lawyers, and realtors to unknowingly launder their money.

Yeah that sounds about right. Probably conservative estimates, to boot.