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  • When you buy an animal burger, you are effectively taking away the possibility of healthy nutritious plant based food from starving children. So many calories wasted.

    Mahatma Gandhi:

    “The earth provides enough to satisfy every man’s needs, but not every man’s greed.” “To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being.”

    In Frances Moore Lappé’s 1971 book Diet for a Small Planet, she wrote that eating animals is “like driving a Cadillac” in terms of waste — a metaphor later rephrased by activists as “eating a hamburger is like stealing bread from the world’s hungry.”



  • You’re technically correct, and that is what I meant, which should be pretty clearly inferred by me saying that we are growing so much food to feed to other animals when we “don’t have enough to feed everyone”. I meant we don’t have enough food AVAILABLE to feed everyone BECAUSE (among other factors such as overconsumption) we are feeding so much to other animals. I didn’t say we aren’t producing enough to begin with, we are, obviously since we are feeding 80 billion land animals a year.

    So I agree the issue is somewhat related to logistics/distribution, but you have to look at the logistics and distribution that happens WITHIN the means of production as well, or rather resource allocation, since we are allocating/distributing so much of the food we make to feed other animals (who don’t even need to be mass bred/exploited/killed) rather than feeding the world’s hungry humans, and the other animals that exist if they need our help to eat.

    With a plant-based system we can feed many more humans, I am reflecting actual scientific consensus, whereas you are reflecting societal knee jerk reactions to the suggestion that there’s a critical change we can make as individuals to help animals and the planet and ourselves. As usual, the majority are on the wrong side of history to begin, until they aren’t. And yes, it is an insane moral atrocity we are doing to animals as well, but I am deliberately not talking about that because I am talking about completely objective science and just showing how people who claim to care about the environment or food security but still support animal agriculture are complete hypocrites.

    https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets


  • Always about the humans. What about the nonhuman animals? Animal rights? And why are we breeding so many of them to farm and feeding them all the food we can eat when we dont even have enough to feed everyone? Whenever someone promotes “lets fix food insecurity” or “lets avoid climate change”, I support it because inevitably if people actually cared enough about it and took those values to their logical conclusion and werent just virtue signaling hypocrites, theyd go vegan and promote plant based living.