• joyjoy@piefed.zip
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    I wish for there to be no good reason to make war ever again.

    “And for absolutely no reason, war has been declared.”

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      Usually the reason for war are,

      Money (stupid because no war made profit for any of the participants)

      Power

      More power

      Resources

      More resources

      Because the president is a stupid idiot

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      I get the point but honestly: Why does that matter?

      If we only accept judgement or action by ‘perfect individuals’ aka. ‘heroes’ the world won’t ever get better as influential humans are still humans and often have, by design, flaws and mistakes build within them and their character. Does that mean we shouldn’t judge anyone for their actions? Obviously not.

      But to claim that ones vision or ideas are outright wrong due to ad-hominem argumentation against their personal flaws is also bullshit. You’ll always find something to point out, especially with historical figures. Since, ironically due to their imperfect actionism, our social norms have improved and we often rightfully so critizise things deemed normal during their time.

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        It matters coz how could I ever take a wife-beating racist serious in whatever he preaches or says?

        Noone is perfect, but you also don’t need to be a hero to not be a racist moron beating your wife. Seriously? If that’s already a hero the world is broken.

        I dunno who said it, but to quote freely: “the best index to a person’s character is how he treats those that can’t fight back and offer no benefit”

        If ghandi (or anyone else) beats his wife and is a racist, that’s all I need to know about what person he is.

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        Because of the “no forgiveness doctrine” many leftist follow since their 4chan days. The biggest cancel culture fans originally were 4chan edgelords once, they just left the moment it became inconvenient for them to stay there, usually due to /pol/. After that, it’s usually imposed onto the others by the elders, because they mistook stupidity for radicalism.

        If you ask: this problem is not exclusive to the left, at least the western loli community is insufferable thanks to them (and explains their performative transphobia since “many antis are transes”), allegedly thanks to someone who ended up in both communities.

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        So was Einstein and didn’t treat his wife well if I remember correctly. I guess there are no heroes.

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    I need to point out the irony of the song being anti-religion but the comic having Marley, Ghandi and MLK Jr as happy faces for this “better world”. I wonder if this irony is lost on the artist, or this is some deep layer rage-bait.

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    Read “John” by his first wife. Quite interesting story of a guy. Yoko and drugs really fucked him up. Possessive narrccisistic personality from the beginning. Who wouldnt be ruined by that level of fame though. The world was INSANE for them.

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    Who are the people in the last few frames? I recognize Enstein and Bob Marley, but I’m not sure who the others are.

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      Well one was Reverend Martin Luther King Jr and another was Gandi so odd choices to add to a meme about how religion is the problem. Another I think is JFK the only Catholic president.

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        That’s not JFK. It’s Harvey Milk, an early gay rights movement advocate and the first openly gay person elected to office in California.

        Also the meme wasn’t ‘about how religion is the problem.’ The song and meme suggest the problem is artificial separations, othering people, judging them, treating subjective reality as objective truth. No heaven or hell because all there is is this life. No imaginary borders that mean you are meant to prioritize ‘us’ over ‘them’. No killing them or dying for us. No religions telling you that those in other religions are wrong, immoral, dangerous, evil, etc. The take away is meant be that we should seek peace, equality, and inclusivity. That were all the same at our core.