• MimicJar@lemmy.world
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    Paul will cave and allow this to pass, this is what he does almost every time.

    That being said, I hope he doesn’t. If Congress wants to increase regulation for hemp derived THC (also called Delta 8 THC) then put together a separate bill and run it through the process.

    That won’t happen because Congress doesn’t actually pass bills anymore. They just lump everything together and slap “must pass” on it.

    Also this quote is fun,

    Manufacturers of beverage alcohol, one of the most highly regulated consumer products, urge the Senate to reject Sen. Paul’s attempts to allow hemp-derived THC products to be sold devoid of federal regulation and oversight across the country

    This type of THC has been available for several years with minimal regulation and the US has been just fine.


    Edit: Reading articles is difficult. At the time of the article posting (~2pm Monday) Paul hadn’t “caved”. At the time of my comment (Tuesday) he already had.

    The Sunday vote was cloture, aka we’re done debating.

    The Senate had already taken a major first step toward ending the shutdown Sunday night, voting to end debate on a motion to proceed to a House-passed continuing resolution. But procedural rules require 30 hours of “post-cloture” debate before senators can vote to proceed, followed by four more votes to pass the full funding package.

    The Monday vote happened around 8pm, since that was less than 30 hours later there must have been another vote to skip the 30 hour timer.

    Given the timing Paul, at best, delayed the vote by 6 hours.

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      This type of THC has been available for several years with minimal regulation and the US has been just fine

      I mean, it hasn’t, but it has nothing to do with the availability of marijuana.

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        Fair enough. The US has been just fine with regards to the wide availability of his particular form of THC.

        We’re not living in a world of “Reefer Madness”.

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        You probably didnt know but marijuana is a racist word invented to blame Mexicans for cannabis consumption.

        Edit: As people seem to think this was meant in a condescending way: I really just wanted to get the info out. As we are in kind of a progressive bubble here on Lemmy I assumed that most people try to avoid using racist language and thus would appreciate this info if they dont already know. I at least was glad when told and would appreciate people telling me when I accidentally use racist language instead of keeping quiet and potentially judging me. Sorry I offended so many of you.

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            Im not specifically invested in making people stop using it, but I think most people dont know and theres really no need to use the one word invented by racists when theres literally hundreds of synonyms.

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              You are contradicting yourself here. Either you don’t care if people use it, or you do care and want people to use different words. You brought it up so have a stance.

              OR, we could direct this energy at actual targets like the people trying to take away all of our rights and actually bring back racism and bigotry as law.

              If you just wanted to point it out like some kind of trivia and educate people, but don’t want to sound like you’re lecturing or advocating for something dumb, you need to reformat your original comment in a different way so it’s not prescriptive or suggesting anything is wrong with saying it now since it doesn’t actually bother most people.

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                I dont see a contradiction. Not everything a person says is meant to make other people do things. We are in a progressive bubble where I assume most people make an effort to not use racist language and when I see someone using it I inform them about it and however they use that information is up to them.

                How would you suggest I reword it? English is not my first language and it didnt seem pushy to me.

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                  Im not specifically invested in making people stop using it

                  You said this, but you’re STILL trying to defend your stance that we should not use the word. It’s not a matter of if you’re being pushy, it’s WHAT you’re pushing.

                  In this case, do you REALLY want to see progressives in these spaces divide up into camps arguing if the word is safe to say or not? Do you think everyone will just “work it out” between each other? Have you any clue how these issues harm progressive movements?

                  I am literally half thinking you might be a bad-faith plant or provocateur, even Lemmy has them.

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                    I never said you specifically should not use it. I said I dont see the need. And if others who read this also feel the same way, they might make the decision to stop using it. It amazes me how defensive people got, it was not my intention at all to make people feel bad. I just wanted to get the info out. Kind of feels like when people get mad at the sentence “I dont eat meat”. Like “How can you be so condescending”, “Why do you force your ideals on us”.

                    Its a bit funny that all of you keep accusing me of “dividing people into camps” and “starting useless discussions”, while all I wrote was a neutral piece of information which could have stood on its own. The answers though, I feel like theyre very much trying to divide people into camps.

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      There seems to be a lot of confusion in this thread about hemp derived THC and delta-8 THC. Delta-8 THC is an unregulated cannabinoid that can be made by converting CBD through a chemical process. But hemp also contains Delta-9 THC, which is the same thing that would come in the recreational or medical cannabis you’d get in a legal state. The limitation is that the products are only allowed to contain up to 0.3% Delta-9 THC by volume. The funny workaround here is that products like edibles and drinks can easily still contain a recreational dose of Delta-9 THC while staying well below 0.3% THC by volume. This has created a legal market for THC products and I’ve actually really enjoyed it, living in a state that still does not have any form of medical or recreational cannabis available.

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        So I’m less familiar with Delta 9 THC, but my understanding is that both Delta 8 THC and Delta 9 THC are able to be derived/extracted from hemp. If I’m understanding you correctly, it’s a different process for each, but the end result is still that we get one and/or the other.

        Additionally both of them have the same restrictions as you mentioned, being less then 0.3% THC by volume, which makes them excellent candidates for edibles and beverages.

        I think Delta 9 THC is closer to “traditional” THC, which matches with what you’ve said.

        Living in a state that does have recreational cannabis, I was surprised when I first saw Delta 8 THC products sold alongside alcoholic beverages.

        So while technically this law change won’t affect me much, I’ve certainly appreciated the destigmatization of “THC” at a federal level.

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          Delta-9 THC IS what people just called “THC” forever. It’s the very same compound that’s found in your recreational or medical cannabis products. It can be extracted from hemp naturally. The distinction in naming conventions is a more recent thing due to the prevalence of Delta-8 THC products.