Our jobs as citizens is to be critical of the government.
If you’re not being critical, then they are getting away with something.
Obama refusing to name a matching DNC chair is why we lost all momentum, and neoliberals were able to force Hillary, Joe, and Kamala down our throats for over a decade.
And people legit worship him for “getting” us a more conservative version of Mitt Romeny’s healthcare plan while he normalized the US military killing US citizens…
Now Carter…
Carter gets rembered as the “last great” Dem.
But the truth is he was further right than the Dem voting base, and even had an anti-abortion speaker at his first nomination acceptance. He didn’t push too hard to overturn Roe v Wade.
He wasn’t “the last great Dem” he was the begining of neoliberlism.
It’s just 50 fucking years later, nobody understands how much we’ve lost, because they don’t know what we had.
Oo ooo, can I go next?
FDR wasn’t the great working class champion he has been lionized as. The New Deal was a compromise that was a direct response to the working class organizing and beginning to make demands. It’s purpose was to mitigate the failings of capitalism, because the contradictions could never be directly addressed. Roosevelt sided with big business, in both agriculture and banking, that added speed to consolidation of corporations we are now fully having to deal with.
Roosevelt was a social liberal. He believed in state intervention on economy only if required. He went hands off sometime after his first term when when the economy improved. But when US had a mini-recession during the Depression, he put his hands back again on the steering wheel.
Roosevelt sided with big business, in both agriculture and banking,
What?
EBRA?
I have no idea what you mean, I don’t know everything, but I feel like you may be misunderstanding something
The National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933 (NIRA) included the promotion of monopolies and price-fixing, which had a negative impact on small businesses, and inadequate protection of workers’ rights and collective bargaining (7a a single line).
That’s legislation…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Industrial_Recovery_Act_of_1933
Are you mad he didn’t veto it?
Or do you think FDR is soley responsible like when China killed all the sparrows and caused a famine killing millions?
That’s relevant, because you’re saying unintended consequences matter after all.
I just don’t understand why you’re blaming FDR unless you assume he had the same level of power as Mao
It was apart of Roosevelt’s New Deal, his administration was the driving force behind it. Like yes it was legislation but is the point you are trying to make that the New Deal had nothing to do with FDR?
You’re blaming him for one piece of legislation that had unintended consequences…
Do you blame Mao for the famine that resulted when he ordered the extermination of sparrows?
For some reason you didn’t answer that
Are you at all familiar with the subject at hand or just talking to talk?
NIRA was an utter failure, considered both by the people that lived through it and historians because of the reasons I listed. So bad that it had to be repealed within 2 years. Like idk why you keep bringing up Mao dude.
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Who in the absolute fuck worships Obama? I’ve known many people who like him and most of those also criticize him on some level. Can’t say I’ve heard of anyone “worshipping” him even if we go with a loose definition there. Strawman.
Obama is a war criminal. He continued Bush policies and was where the buck stops regarding the disposition matrix.
A lot of Afghani villages burned at Obama’s command, and one in fifty people killed by drone strikes was a POI. The rest were mostly civilians, including children and grandmothers
Liberals are just not as left-wing – and not as truthful – as some of us are.
Me ten seconds before I talk about how the root of all evil is capitalism :3
And then I mention that I own firearms and start criticizing my state’s overbearing gun laws.
The proletariat needs weapons.
I frame it as having a Marxist view on gun rights and seeing the gears turn after explaining what Marx said about weapons
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My Lemmy experience so far ^
No surprise. You’re in .world
Unfortunately, that instance is crawling with neoliberalists.
That isn’t the only instance I’ve engaged with, but yes I’ve found that larger and more generalized ones have more liberals. There is a particularly obnoxious form of liberal discourse that I’ve found consistent across them too. Liberals on Lemmy think they’re radical just for finding the loud fascism distasteful, and get very upset if you suggest that they aren’t radical enough. It’s less of the pompous fixation on hypocrisy you’d find on Reddit and more outraged entitlement to the desire for change.
