Back when Zoom recalled all their employees to the office a couple years ago, that should have been the end for them.
Their product is designed to facilitate remote work and communication and they basically advertised to the entire world that, in their minds, it’s ineffective. That was a blunder of epic proportions.
Most of the people I work aren’t even in the same timezone as me. Even when in the office, we use Teams for meetings for recording and note keeping.
I don’t know if they advertise that with zoom going to the office isn’t needed, but even going to the office something like this is useful.
And any alternative to fucking teams is good by me
This is a terrible opinion. Just because you work in a motorcycle shop doesn’t mean you suck if you ride a bicycle. If my grandmother had wheels she would be a wheelchair.
This is a terrible comparison.
There are people who prefer the office. There are meetings better held in person. There are things you cannot do in remote, such as working together on a blackboard.
There are people who prefer the office.
Truth, no argument here
There are things you cannot do in remote, such as working together on a blackboard.
Inaccurate, you can definitely have shared drawing space remotely.
But really, none of this has to do with the comparison you made. It’s like this thread has a bunch of middle managers in it trying to justify return to office mandates or something.
Some people really hate going to the office too, and there is the saying of ‘eat your own dog food’ it seems weird that zoom, a platform for remote work, would have a giant office building. You can argue servers blah blah, but I’m not convinced that’s a data center.
Well if the reason you’re riding a bicycle is because you’re so utterly shit at building motorcycles they either don’t work or you don’t trust riding them, then yeah, it does matter.
Those are stealth layoffs. Short sighted, but it doesn’t spook investors.
I hate it when someone sends me a zoom link. It tries to download some file, while there’s a tiny link to the web version available… Why would I install some program if I can just use it in my browser?
Yep I really hate this dark pattern. Don’t hide the thing you built for me to use…let me choose! Being so transparently manipulative is gross.
Because then they can’t share their root backdoor with the highest bidders.
Anybody complaining about Zoom is only doing so because they have been forced to use Teams instead.
Woop, another zoombie 😄
Of course there is no non-corpo option
why would I
Because it’s slightly easier and someone at zoom HQ gets to say "I’m in!"¹ to steal all your data and stuff.
¹you have an obligation to be sporting
Never get high on your own supply
Lmao do they actually occupy a huge building like this
They could occupy only a portion but pay to have their name on top.
They recently made everyone return to office so probably.
Servers? IT? Maintenance? If only there was a place this could be centralized for efficiency….
It is funny to imagine every employee having a server rack and cooling system to add enough capacity though.
Servers? IT? Maintenance? If only there was a place this could be centralized for efficiency….
It’s in the C L O U D Michael.
Getting mad at Zoom staff for having an office feels like getting mad at Ford staff for owning a bike.
Hey man it was my turn with the bike today!
Do you mean Ford employees can’t afford car ? Damn.
:-/
Setting aside the Blood and Soil nationalism of the authorship (gotta read this thing while listening to Tomorrow Belongs to Me to do it justice), we’re absolutely in a race to the bottom with industry wages.
Renting a colo is cheaper.
But that building is definetly not where AWS lives! /j
Why are there pens in the hammer factory? Just because you build a tool does not mean you should use it for everything.
Note: I’m not saying you should use Zoom for anything.
Pens weren’t supposed to replace hammers.
Maybe they got swords and hammers confused.
It’s a reference to the phrase “When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”
I am full time on site and 90% of our meetings are still virtual. Zoom isn’t just for remote work.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/zoom-brought-workers-back-office-means/story?id=102173259
They did not give an explanation that has any specific meaning, so here we go:
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Can’t let the commercial real estate market crash, therefore, unnecessary commutes are mandatory to keep Zoom’s own loan on its office in good shape.
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Muddle Managers and C Suite people need to be able to harass and lord over people in person, or they begin to feel unfulfilled and insecure. Your suffering is their joy. They need to be able to interrupt you and waste your time with unannounced in person distractions, and when this is intermediated by physical distance and you being able to not take an unschedule video call, they can feel their ability to terrorize and neg you at any moment slipping away.
Sure, what Zoom is doing with VC platform could radically alter all of society.
We could largely cut down on traffic, commutes, rework vacant office building, or large portions of them, into basically pseudo-arcologies with chunks of residential, cafeteria / storefront, and office levels.
But, they’re a B2B focused company, so that’s the literal opposite of what they want, what they want is the status quo, but with themselves as another subscription that other businesses have to pay for.
Rent seeking, as usual.
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I don’t get all this work from home shit. I much prefer being in the office.
Go away, Bezos
To be fair, they presumably had an office before Zoom existed in a usable state.
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