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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 21 days ago

Trump Balks At Declaring War For Venezuelan Drug Cartels Strikes: ‘We’re Just Going To Kill People’

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Trump Balks At Declaring War For Venezuelan Drug Cartels Strikes: ‘We’re Just Going To Kill People’

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 21 days ago
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‘We're Gonna Kill Them:’ Trump Signals No Formal Declaration Of War Against Venezuelan Drug Cartels
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At least nine U.S. military strikes have been carried out against alleged drug vessels in the Caribbean since September.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Imagine if Obama said “We’re just going to kill people” in any context. I hate this shit so much.

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      To be fair…Obama did “just kill people” by the thousands.

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        Liberals like Obama because he did it while keeping a low profile so they could keep their conscious clean.

        MAGA like Trump cuz he gloats about it so they can revel in it.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Where the fuck did I say I liked Obama.

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            When you hear people insult liberals do you always take it personally?

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Maybe go back to the original comment for this thread and read usernames

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                I know you were at the top, what I don’t understand is why you thought my comment was directed at you.

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                  deleted by creator

              • 3abas@lemmy.world
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                They were clearly responding to the person who instinctively jumped to defend Obama, if you look at the usernames, he was clearly not taking to you…

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                  Wasn’t even directed at anyone in particular, just stating the observation.

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          conscience

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        Every US president practically has.

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          This is pretty much why the Supreme Court ruled that a president’s actions cannot be considered illegal, when performed in the name of their official capacity as president. They didn’t just give Trump the authority to violate the law…they retroactively gave it to every other president that has committed atrocities during their time in office.

          In a twisted sort of way, they were affirming what’s already considered established precedent.

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        I thought Obama had congressional approval for all his military actions.

        That’s not just killing people, it’s part of the job of being president: executing the will of the republic. What Trump is doing is very different.

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          Obama was really just piggy-backing on previous “approvals”. He was also conducting drone strikes wherever he felt like…in or out of active war scenarios. It was also all based on shadowy intelligence, and done without any due process for those he killed. All in the name of the Republic…just like how Trump is claiming his actions are.

          So…not much different.

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            Congress approved military strikes in the entire middle east region under Bush. Even if the strikes weren’t in active war zones, they were approved uses of military force. Trump has no such authority for his strikes on boats in the Pacific and Caribbean.

            I agree that the authorizations granted under Bush were bullshit and tantamount to war crimes, but the actions of the president is starkly different.

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      Dawg is he actively trying to launch into an actual emergency or war to try to hold on to power? Looks like it.

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        All of the above.

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      Dictators don’t even say that shit out loud.

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        He’s not smart. Even for a dictator. And the bar’s pretty fucking low there.

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    He’ll declare war before the midterms and claim that there can’t be elections while the US is at war.

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      shame we held open and fair elections during every war we’ve had in the past, including civil war

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      Learning from Russia

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        Well, from Ukraine, though an actual war is occurring. Russia are more than happy to hold elections since they’re rigged anyway.

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          Ukraine has a different constitution than us, with provisions for suspending elections during war. We do not have any such provisions in our constitution.

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            Sure.

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      Willie Nelson’s not going to like that. Venezuela is tough to rhyme.

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        Thanks for the wag the dog reference.

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    ”He loved to watch people burn, the way their skin blackened and blistered and melted off their bones. He burned lords he didn’t like, he burned Hands who disobeyed him. He burned anyone who was against him. Before long, half the country was against him. Aerys saw traitors everywhere.”

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      Shit is that the Mad King?

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    renames Department of Defense back to Department of War

    declines to actually declare war

    What is even the point, then? Ignoring the whole “only Congress can declare war” part, of course, but it’s not like that’s going to be a particular difficult hurdle for the regime.

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      Foreign policy: “Whatever”

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    When asked by a reporter why he would not ask Congress for a declaration of war, he replied: “I think we’re just gonna kill people. Okay? We’re gonna kill them. They’re gonna be, like, dead.”

    He added: “The land is going to be next. And we may go to the Senate; we may go to the Congress and tell them about it, but I can’t imagine they’d have any problem with it."

    Fuck I hate this guy so much. Can’t even call a Nazi tyrant war criminal a Nazi tyrant war criminal.

    BTW I don’t agree with Candace Owens on anything else, but I don’t think her claims that Trump may have been involved in Charlie Kirk’s assassination (or at least allowed it to happen) are exactly “unhinged,” when he’s comfortable openly saying this kind of shit to the fucking press. If he can talk openly about just murdering people on a whim, if he can release an official memo that very much implies he plans to do the same for any American citizen who disagrees with him, why would it be “unhinged,” to think he’s capable of something like that?

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      He wouldn’t be able to keep his mouth shut, if there is a conspiracy it’s coming from the puppeteers; Stephen Miller, Roger Stone, Susie Wiles, etc.

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        It’s always seems so weird to me that the night Charlie Kirk was murdered, he called him a “martyr for free speech.” Then he started cracking down on free speech and framing it as terrorist activity.

        Then he literally bragged “we took away the freedom of speech.”

        I think if there was some kind of conspiracy to allow it to happen, then everybody in his administration is aware of it. Hours before he was murdered, the Senate finance committee asked Scott Bessant why he wouldn’t release the bank records for several banks including JP Morgan, regarding Epstein and people like Peter Thiel.

        Then Republicans in both the House and Senate blocked an attempt by Democrats to subpoena those records, but nobody even noticed bc everybody was paying attention to the assassination.

        So many wealthy and powerful people were desperately in need of a big distraction that day. Not only did it work to distract, it allowed them a BS reason to claim they had to crack down on the left and any opposition.

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    A war is a two-way conflict. No way they want that.

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    Can we please do the right thing here and convict this man of war crimes. Even if he’s already dead when allegedly sane people get back in power, they need to sue the shit out of his remaining trusts and kids for corruption, bribery etc.

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    And the war in Ukraine is just a tactical operation to any and all nazis…

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    No,YOU are going to kill people.

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