He really is resorting to his lamest trick which was the Covid checks. I bet you anything he’s going to sign them like last time.
he has to sign them by hand or they dont count! no stamps or autopens either!
America - the land of “people should be punished for voting the ‘wrong’ way.”
It’s amazing that all it took was a few months of Trump in office for Republicans to stop even bothering to pretend to be anything other than overtly and explicitly anti-American - to out themselves as deliberate and even enthusiastic enemies of every single thing that ever made America great…
Conservatism is, at its root, monarchist. The original writers and thinkers were focused on preserving authoritarian rule, then upon how to build and maintain hierarchies of society where people rule over others.
They’ve never been interested in democratic ideals unless it suits them to reinstate a dictatorship.
It must be such a radically different mindset to live in. Like, I can’t imagine ever feeling enthusiastic about enforced hierarchies and monarchy.
Social mobility feels the most liberating, and social constraints the most confining. How can anyone feel differently? I genuinely do not understand.
Weren’t we supposed to be in suppprt of free markets? Aren’t those supposed to empower people to make deals with other people on their own terms, create value, compete, and prosper? Enforced hierarchy and oligarchy feels like not at all that.
It must be control-freakery which, again, I cannot relate to at all.
The early conservative thinkers wrote about the French Revolutions and the rise of egalitarian thinking meant that something must take the place of monarchies to decide the social order. They preferred war as the measure of who should be the leaders, but that money and wealth could be a substitute. This led to Capitalist concepts infesting the right wing since monarchies are off the table.
Innuendo Studios has some great videos summarizing the alt right, conservatism, and Christian nationalism if you’re interested:
Regarding the mindset issue, it might be more baked into people than we’d like. Two great books on the topic are:
The Authoritarians by Altimeter
The Righteous Mind by Haidt
They also have videos summarizing the works in presentations and interviews. It seems that people end up having shadings of authoritarian drives, which means they’re happier living under someone’s commands and will work to preserve hierarchies despite the harm it causes others. Whether it is socialization or biological I don’t know.
To sum up: some people want to be ruled and they’re currently tearing the US down to let a king rule over the rubble.
I hate everything about this. Because it’s probably spot on.
So, what is to be done about authoritarians?
What are those of us who simply want to live free and be left alone (and leave others alone, if they’d only tend to their own business) to do?
Maybe the answer really is guillotines idk. The paradox of protecting liberalism with illiberal means and all that.
Hey quick question: how do you know who I voted for?
Doesn’t matter, they’ll just go by electoral votes or something
Remember DOGE? Remember all of the databases they got access to without any actual clearance? It’s probably somewhere there. Especially if Trump’s allusion to the voting machines being provoked in his favor by his pet Muskrat are true.
So they’re taking the money from the American people and then “generously” giving them back a portion of it and they say only to people who might financially need it. Almost like they’re taxing people and redistributing income to those in need. If it wasn’t for the hefty piece they’re taking off the top and the blatant buying of votes, it almost sounds like Socialism!!
Republicans have always been the biggest recipients of welfare.
After reading through the article, this is a misleading title. It sounds like he’s trying to say that Biden voters are all wealthy people that wouldn’t need this:
Well, you wouldn’t give it to everybody, you’d give it to the working people,” the Missouri Republican told far-right podcaster and former Trump adviser Steve Bannon on Tuesday. “You’d give it to our people.”
“I mean, you know, the rich people don’t need it … what I mean by that is all those Democrat donors of Wall Street, all these hedge fund guys, who all hate the tariffs, by the way."
He wants to exclude Biden voters from the $600 Trump tariff rebate checks?! The ones Trump got for us?
The same Trump that was best friends with Jeffery Epstein up until his suspicious suicide? You know, that known pedophile that Trump said “liked them young?” Remember when Trump wrote him a weird birthday card? That was odd for a president to do that. Trump did say he liked to grab women by the pussy. That was weird too.
Wait what were we talking about again? Oh yeah the $600 “sorry we dismantled your somewhat functioning government” check I probably won’t get. Cool.
How? Your vote is supposed to be anonymous. Unless he just means registered democrats
The foxes are guarding the hen house.
Jokes on him. I’m registered republican.
This headline is a bit alarmist.
“I mean, you know, the rich people don’t need it … what I mean by that is all those Democrat donors of Wall Street, all these hedge fund guys, who all hate the tariffs, by the way.”
So he is basically just implying everyone who is poor voted Trump, and everyone rich voted Biden. It’s basically a neutered version of class consciousness with a tribal mindset. Which is exactly the type of class consciousness I would expect Hawley to want his constituents to have. He’s still being disingenuous, but he’s not (as of right now) suggesting that we keep voter records to punish people for wrongthink.
Meanwhile, Trump Admin requested the voter records for San Francisco county. Now I wonder why he would want that? 🤔
It’s cute that he thinks that Wall St hedge fund guys are Democrats
That sounds awful socialist to me.
I wasn’t aware all Biden voters were rich.
$600/person will go by so quickly with even more inflated prices of goods.
Unless it’s UBI, we don’t need checks. We need higher wages and lower costs of living.
I love that there are two parties, one that represents all of America, and one that represents half of America, and the half side keeps getting elected? Do you want ants, America? Because that’s how you get ants
I love that you think either one of them represents all of America.
You are right, neither of them do. At least one isn’t trying to cut the throats of half the country though. Nice rebuttal! One is willing to put aside differences and find middle ground, the other wants to throw anyone who disagrees in a deep dark prison so they never see the light of day. Totally both sides though, ammirite?
You are right, neither of them do.
Duh.
Nice rebuttal
It wasn’t meant to be a rebuttal, it was meant to be a mildly condescending statement of an obvious truth
Totally both sides though
What if I told you that two things can suck, at the same time, even if they’re not exactly identical? If your choices are losing a toe or losing a leg, of course most folks would choose the toe. They’d have to be real douchebags to cheerlead for the people who cut their toe off though.
Which is exactly why the Democratic party stagnates around indecision. Every issue is “yeah, but…” Where as the Republican party just ignores literal crimes in their midst, because he’s “their guy”. This isn’t inherently an American problem, it’s a political one. Who is cheerleading? Both things can be true too, one is less evil but still needs to be fixed, it’s a lot better than literally chopping your own foot off with a blunt shovel and blaming the other guy. I’ve always been taught and discovered myself that one must always challenge authority, and to beware anyone promising you exactly what you want to hear.
Who is cheerleading?
You are, when you say they represent all Americans. They represent their donors. They give lip service to all Americans.
Oh shut up. What political party doesn’t? I’m waiting…
You see me claiming that any political party “represents all Americans”?
Now that’s how you do a cognitive dissonance!
Also, Sen. Josh Hawley should be excluded from terrestrial oxygen.
Judging by his cognitive abilities I’d say he probably has been excluded from a good portion of terrestrial oxygen for most of his life.
I like how he supports UBI.
There are so many things wrong with every single Hawley quote in this article, it’s like he’s pioneering a new subgenre of intellectual failure. He’s not just wrong on the facts, or the descriptions, or the correlations; he’s blending all of it into a dense, swirling vortex of confident nonsense, that’s somehow more structurally unsound than the sum of its parts. And I’m about 78% sure he knows exactly what he’s doing. I just can’t decide whether that’s impressive, or evidence of some latent morlockian genetic ability to produce lies so elaborate and self-assured, that they short-circuit your instinct to question them.
It sounds like what an LLM does. Maybe AI can replace him
I would take a hamster with a Yes / No button over Hawley
The rich people don’t need it .
He means millionaires like him?
